Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Best sounding year models?

[Forrest Nearing]

a set of 370 injectors costs about $375... with 370's, a home ground plate, and setting the timing, you can make 450rwhp on a 215 pump with a stock turbo.



what kind of power will $375 get you on a 24v?



ever heard of a 12v with a cracked block? me neither... and yes, I know they came w/ 53 blocks too... but you never hear of them cracking, only 24v



ever hear of a 12v leaving someone stranded with a dead injection pump? me neither... injection pumps can obviously fail, but they usually give you some lead time and some symptoms before they do... and it usually occurs after half a million miles...



how many times have you heard of a 24v leaving someone stranded w/ a dead injection pump? LOL!



how many times have you heard of a guy who just bought a 24v saying "my truck won't start" after he changes his fuel filter?? because his lift pump is dead... and has BEEN dead for a while... and has already damaged the injection pump.



how about stumbling with different boxes? how about the truck trying to die after a heavily fueled WOT run because the fuel system can't keep up?



ever hear hear of a 12v guy spending $500 on a FASS system?



as I said, the 12v is a better engine.

 

[CHolman]

To be honest (im a new member) I own 3 Fords and im selling one 2004 F-350 6. 0ltr diesel



I am wanting to buy a dodge ... im looking to find the cummins year model that sounds most like a tractor trailer?



I have heard any 12V will sound like a big rig and was told by a diesel guru that the 98. 5-02 24V has a good sounding big rig exhaust note?



Any insite? :-laf

Well you have three fords right? Oo. Well get rid of all three and buy each gen "Cummins"... :-laf just my . 02

 

[Cummins360]

12 valve engines are old technology, ever see what sled pullers and diesel powered drag cars use... . 24 valve engines, granted some of them convert to the P7100 but still a 24 valve engine. And If you have a box... . UNLIKE a 24 valve you can turn on and off the power as you like so you dont get obsimal fuel milage all the time. As for the lift pumps, all you need is a guage and your good to go, when it fails you bolt on a new lift pump. also the 24 valve head flows more air than a 12 valve head, and allways will. And I have yet to see a 24 valve killed by the KDP.

24 Valve is a better engine

 

[obert]

Wow, startin' to get away from the original question. :-{}



However the 24 has never put me roadside with broken throttle linkage, or leaked oil from the timing cover :-laf Oo.





the 12 has never ate an oil filter, pooped lift pumpS , and they usualy get better fuel milage.



I like both engines. I like the interior of 98-02, and the gear shift gates are tighter post 98.



Lets behave, they're all good.

 

[Cummins360]

At least its not a 6. 0 powerjoke, or a duracrap!!

 

[nps]

However the 24 has never put me roadside with broken throttle linkage, or leaked oil from the timing cover :-laf Oo.

My '95 never left me stranded. I just fished a string through the firewall and pulled on it to go. :-laf



Guess that's why some like them better - you can make em run with chewing gum and baling wire. I'll keep my 01. 5 though (it also sounds better - that was the original question - right?).

 

[Forrest Nearing]

If you have a box... . UNLIKE a 24 valve you can turn on and off the power as you like so you dont get obsimal fuel milage all the time.

I think you meant to say unlike a 12v, but you can either regulate the power with your right foot which is about as simple as it gets... and 12v trucks don't get abysmal mileage... they actually get better mileage than the 24v trucks...



I'll admit, the 24v engines do SOUND better, but I have to also say (again) that the benefits of the 12v outweigh the sound.



the guy has never owned a Cummins... I don't want him to go in blind!

 

[obert]

baling wire

:-laf 1st I said roadside , not stranded. And being just past BFE and needing to keep on the road, I simply mounted the pieces of linkage in my vice on the bumper, hooked up the torch and welded it back together with the only rod I had, an old uniform hanger found behind the truck seat :-laf

Never even shut off the engine, and my day was only 25 min behind scedule, which I made up at the next jobsite



That was last spring, I havent replaced that link yet!!



Deffinately a + on the 12v scoreboard.....

 

[Devan Manis]

Every thing forrest said is true, but i like them all. A 12v in my oppinion sounds more like a big rig, for this fact, it has a lower sounding rattle its almost not a rattle, when was the last time you heard a semi sound like a 01' 24v HO? never they don't have that higher rattle, as far as the sound out the exhaust i'd have to say a straight piped 3rd gen has it for loudest, and second gen 24v straight piped have the almost same note as a straight piped semi.

 

[Forrest Nearing]

oh, I meant to say you could either regulate w/ your right foot or use a valet switch