Competition Best year/model 5.9?

[Johnboy3]

Please educate me a little. If you were going to build an all out Cummins engine, what year or model would be the best? Are the 94-97 engines all the same? Can you put a P-pump on a pre 94? Can you put a 24v head on a 12v engine? Or would it be better to start with a 24v and put a p-pump on it?



Any and all suggestions, comments, or even opinions appreciated. Thanks.

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by Johnboy3

Or would it be better to start with a 24v and put a p-pump on it?

That would be the ticket I think. The best reasons I can think of would be lower compression of the 24v, and the injectors being directly over the cylinder. Not to mention that the 24v head flows more. There are other reasons too, but I'll let you find them.



Happy Hunting,

Andrew

 

[willyslover]

seeing as how you will never believe this bunch

. . why don't ya give Richard [your blue oval guru He He] a shout. . he is about ready to drive it [still waiting for transmission I think]. . or do you blue oval guys think he is a traitor

 

[Johnboy3]

or do you blue oval guys think he is a traitor

He's a turncoat! Makes the record setting dyno pull with a PSD and then leaves us all like a ***** in the night! We feel so used. :{

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by Johnboy3

He's a turncoat! Makes the record setting dyno pull with a PSD and then leaves us all like a ***** in the night! We feel so used. :{

Don't worry, that's about to change, I promise.

 

[LSMITH]

John, buy a 24V and P -pump it. That is where you will get big power and good flow without going hog wild with cams and porting and all of that stuff. If you are gonna drop big money on it start out with a 96-98 12V out of a manual transmission truck. You can have that head ported for major flow, more than a 24V head I have been told. You would also start out with the 215 pump.



One thing you do not want is the ECM of a 24V telling you what you can and cannot do. It has to leave IMO.

 

[Got Smoke?]

Best year/model 5. 9?

97 2500 4x4 5spd!

 

[HVAC]

Feelin' OK?

OMGWHATCHYATALKINBOUTJOHNBOY???



Are ya thinkin' 'bout doin' a Richard on yur truck?:--)

 

[HoleshotHolset]

I have heard lots of folks say that the 24-valve blocks are weaker than the early 12-valve blocks.



As far as the 24-valve head flowing more... . that's debateable. Good luck fitting bigger valves when you already have 4 of 'em stuffed in there.



If you're really going all out... you may as well do a single overhead cam with a custom CNC head... . it has been done... . and works NICELY!



Matt

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by HoleshotHolset

If you're really going all out... you may as well do a single overhead cam with a custom CNC head... . it has been done... . and works NICELY!



Matt

Hey DIPloMatt



We want pics!!! And a vin, and recepts. !!!



Well, pics will do I think.



Andrew

 

[HoleshotHolset]

http://www.staabmachine.com/flashed.htm



Make sure you have Macromedia Flash installed... . this page is a 'flasher'... .



These folks make nice cylinder heads.....



The sky is no longer the limit... . only your wallet can determine how much power you can make.



Matt

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by HoleshotHolset

Theskyisnolonger the limit... . onl...cs. This is different HOW?!?!?! Andrew

 

[HoleshotHolset]

That was just a reminder for those who dream of going fast for cheap... .



Although cheap, rich, and poor are all relative terms... .



Matt

 

[Johnboy3]

So, a 12v with a worked head and a nasty p-pump is the way to go eh?



HVAC, the white truck I have had that has the twin turbos is staying a PSD. It will probably end up towing what ever creation I come up with.

 

[CumminFast]

Hey Johnboy3

What were your dyno #s w/ your PSD?

 

[Todd T]

98 storm block, ported and O ringed, with a PDR cam and stupid pump.

 

[HoleshotHolset]

storm block?

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Matt is this my block.



98' 12V High Nickel block with extra webbing around the mains..... That's what Al said it was.



Jim

 

[TxDieselKid]

Originally posted by Todd T

98 storm block, ported and O ringed, with a PDR cam and stupid pump.

OK, so how DOES Piers' pumps go, I heard it was stupid, stupider, and sick, with sick being the MOST power.



Andrew

 

[Jim Fulmer]

Here are my versions of it.



12mm plungers and barrels, 191 DV's with all the Custom Stuff... Sick.



Same with with cut DV's... . sicker



13mm barrels, cut DV's, with Custom_____, Custom_____,Custom_____... ... ... ... ..... This would be the stupid pump be cause you would be stupid to think you could burn all the fuel.



Jim