Bio die

[BIGNASTY]

Has anyone used Bio in 3gen Dodge? The reason I ask is that Im running some of my toys and building material's up to MT and found Bio up to and including B100. I didnt put any in my Dodge but used B20 in my International 4700/DT466 and man what a differnce alot less rattle but down just a little on power. It was hard to figure the power part I filled, and started climbing grades loaded with drill case and sucker rod kind of heavy for a mid size truck.

 

[Motorhead]

The third gen engines are ok to run B5... big deal... . Supposedly the trucks supplied to the military with our engines are to be able to run B20. We have very high rail pressures. There has been articles of people having their fuel system ruined because the bio fuel has components that will "plasticize" under the high pressures.
What bothers me is that now our country has the capabilities to manufacture bio diesel in quantity and the only vehicles that can run true B100 is older, lower injection pressure diesels. I may be wrong but I won't try it in my truck. On a second note, I did a fluid drain on my G56 and got 6 qts of ATF out of it. I poured it into the fuel tank of my old '77 240D Mercedes. It didn't know the difference!

 

[jakprince]

If i could get B5 i would run it because even that little bit would lube the pump and injectors

 

[MickeyMiller]

What Jakprince said, I seek out B5 just for the added lubricating quality!

 

[HBarlow]

Personally, I wouldn't use that biodiesel crap for anything other than starting a fire to burn trash in my rural burn pit once a month.

See KLauber's post titled Code 0489 (or something like that) and draw your own conclusions.

 

[MQuirin]

Has anyone used Bio in 3gen Dodge? The reason I ask is that Im running some of my toys and building material's up to MT and found Bio up to and including B100. I didnt put any in my Dodge but used B20 in my International 4700/DT466 and man what a differnce alot less rattle but down just a little on power. It was hard to figure the power part I filled, and started climbing grades loaded with drill case and sucker rod kind of heavy for a mid size truck.

I've been running bio in my '07 for 60k miles so far. B20-B100. Quality of the fuel is important, as is extra filtering. The fleet/military vehicles have the extra filter kits, which is why they are rated for B20. You can run bio as an additive also. As little as 1% provides better lubricity than any other additive, and unlike other additives, it is fuel also. If you're interested in running bio, there is a lot a information on the web. I recommend doing a bunch of research and deciding based on that.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Gee Harvey

Personally, I wouldn't use that biodiesel crap for anything other than starting a fire to burn trash in my rural burn pit once a month.



See KLauber's post titled Code 0489 (or something like that) and draw your own conclusions.

Im sure you could be a little more explicit on your statement. Just kidding as for me Im not ready to try it in my Dodge but in the Intertrashinoal it ran fine. On the way back to calif. I filled it with B20 and it ran just fine. I have heard on this site that it's a fuel system cleaner that part is true the International has had a completely new fuel system from fuel tanks to injector and although I didnt have to change filters on the road I took a look at home and I did change them. Im sure sooner or later we all are going to something other than DINO DIESEL. Even the Military is stating to use syn. Diesel and jet fuel look in to Rentech Syn. fuels

 

[crabman]

To answer your question:

I have ran my truck on 100% biodiesel since Jan. of this year with zero problems.

crabman

 

[BIGNASTY]

What BIO

To answer your question:

I have ran my truck on 100% biodiesel since Jan. of this year with zero problems.

crabman

Your up North what company did you buy form. Renner Petro. is a big player in N Calif. and I think that if filtration is a problem then Renner is the place to go. That company is a class act.

 

[NavyDood]

As long as the biodiesel you buy is meeting ASTM standards, you have as much chance of a problem as if you were running #2 diesel. B100 should meet ASTM D6751 prior to blending. B20 blend should meet ASTM D7467. If you blend it yourself and do it right, you will never have an issue either. B20 has never changed my MPG, but B100 did reduce my mileage 4 mpg.

Due to the solvent nature of biodiesel, the possibility of ‘cleaning’ the vehicle fuel tank and fuel lines is true. Lot's of variables can easily change this though. If the #2 you had been using was clean and you filled often, your system is far less likely to be dirty. A new fuel filter is a good idea, but not necessary IMO. You should always have a spare filter on hand anyhow. If you do have to change it earlier than normal, by the second filter you should be back on normal schedule. I have ran any where from B1 to B100 and have never have had to change my fuel filter any more than normal. I have always used retail bio. I now have 143,000 miles on my truck and didn't start running bio until around the 40,000 mile mark. Even ran it while under warranty.

Biodiesel is 10 times less toxic than table salt and biodegrades faster than sugar.

 

[EDankievitch]

With over 123,000 Miles on my 05 and about 105,000 on a Bio blend. Summer months I've run B100 in the winters I run B20. I find that the best fuel MPG is on a 50/50 mix. I did alot of research before I took the plunge. The most important thing is having a good supplier and keeping your tanks CLEAN and changing your filters when you start to see a pressure diff. For those with the newer ReGen cat's in their exaust the use of as low a mix as B5 lowers the lightoff temp of the cat by as much as 1/3. For those of us that use our trucks as the short trip grocery getter having the cat light off at a cooler temp is a huge plus. I should add that I did install the B20 filter kit, better to be safe than sorry. Back in 07 I repowered a 21' Trophy sportfishing boat with a Volvo D3 diesel and that engine has never seen 100% Dino diesel always had a Bio blend in the tank. I like the fact that Biodiesel is biodegradeable much safer for the waters and marine life. Hope this helps answer your questions. Oh, one last thought, in the Ny tristate ariea there is a very good supplier Metro Bio fuels they can be reached at (718) 383-1658. They also have BioHeat for your house, cleaner burning.

 

[crabman]

I do not buy biodiesel from any retailer, I make my own.

Last year the feds gave anyone a tax credit for investing in a alternate fuel source for their vehicles. I purchased all the necessary equipment and got a very nice tax credit from the feds.

The biodiesel is filtered thru a 5 micron filter before drying and again thru fuel/water filter before being pumped into my truck.

I also have another fuel/water filter inline before the stock filter and a additional 2 micron filter before injection pump.

As stated in a previous post,

1. Your mpg will drop, mine dropped 1-2 mpg

2. First couple of tanks will clean out your fuel system

3. Winter time, max blend is 45% bio, lower would give you a better safety factor.

My cost of making it is 55-60 cents/gallon, so I really don't care if my mpg does drop.

crabman

 

[BIGNASTY]

crabman

Do you make your own Bio at home I was wondering about the legal part of that. You know that here in Calif. they have a law about everything and why you cant do this or that. With all the different ban's on chemicals I was just wondering

 

[guldam]

I am contemplating putting together an Appleseed processor. Already have WVO waiting for me to run a batch. Figured I will do someone liter batches to see how the process works and then go from there.



What do you do with the left over glycerine? Seems like that could become a big pain in neck.



In the meantime I've found a source for clean, well processed B100 for 2. 50 a gallon. Pump price in the area is $4. 10 a gallon right now.



Guldam

I do not buy biodiesel from any retailer, I make my own.

Last year the feds gave anyone a tax credit for investing in a alternate fuel source for their vehicles. I purchased all the necessary equipment and got a very nice tax credit from the feds.

The biodiesel is filtered thru a 5 micron filter before drying and again thru fuel/water filter before being pumped into my truck.

I also have another fuel/water filter inline before the stock filter and a additional 2 micron filter before injection pump.

As stated in a previous post,

1. Your mpg will drop, mine dropped 1-2 mpg

2. First couple of tanks will clean out your fuel system

3. Winter time, max blend is 45% bio, lower would give you a better safety factor.

My cost of making it is 55-60 cents/gallon, so I really don't care if my mpg does drop.

crabman

 

[MQuirin]

$4. 10? Wow. Where are you? B100 is $2. 79 in Winnsboro, SC at Midlands Biofuel. I've been using it for a while, but I wouldn't at over $4.

 

[WWomack]

Whats the life span of Bio Diesel? How do you know if its bad or set around too long? I had some B-100 and it smelled rancid, so I was not about to use it.

 

[JMetzger]

Here in Reno,NV they are coming out with what they call G Diesel. It is Diesel with natural gas blended. It is suppose to be the next best thing to sliced bread & mom's apple pie. A trucking company here (Old Dominion) Is using it & the owner says he is not having any problems with it. They are suppose to increase out put so all of northern NV will have it. Will have to wait & see. Here is a link to the local paper that talked about it. I guess it is suppose to make Bio old fashion.

http://www.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2010100823029