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Biodiesel Production from Algae

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I started running bio in Apr/May of '05. I ran B5 until about Sept when I had my fuel guy mix me up some B40. Next 550gal. was B20. Since then it's been too cold so I've been running B2. I had absolutely no probs until November, shortly after MN mandated all diesel be B2. I had a couple filters plug on the barrel and one or two in the truck. How could I go all summer with no probs and 20X the bio???? I smell a rat, a BIG OIL-ly rat. The filters were dirty, not waxy or gelled.



I read in the St. Paul Pioneer Press last week that there has been hundreds of truckers having problems with bio. Seems their filters are all plugging up. According to the article, it's soy diesel with its higher glycerin content that's the culprit.



I'm sure it has nothing to do with the crap refineries have been sending out for the last 50 years. :rolleyes: Loading tanks and lines with crap and now something comes along to clean them out and it's the "cleaner" that's causing the problem.
 
I'm not sure by reading your post , but did you have a problum , I read one of those articals a few days ago only at some prompting from a friend that knows I'm into the bio, so after reading I told him that this was a good example why I do not read the paper , alot of general statements and know facts , in my mind the artical should have started with the state law min. 2% then the fed. standers law [ I do not remember for sure ] I thought that it stated that not more than 1 1/2 -3% gliserin, and knowing a little about bio & a little about basic math it would seem to me that there couldn't be enough gliserin in your fuel tank to hardly measure .
I've been into the alterntive energy thing for some yrs. [ using solar power for 25yrs. ]and most of the comin media tells me it dosen't work , so it sounds like just more of the same dogy dew.
 
Most of the time I think that I can't remeber anything , so this motivated me to check my facts so I went to ASTM International - Standards Worldwide
and found that the max. alowd gliserin was . 240 % ,so even if they didn't remove the gliserin out {anouther guess 20%} that in B2 , there still would not be enough to cause problums.
 
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I can honestly say that it's just like #2, all depends on where you get it and who refined it. I have been running B100 (soybean oil) since April with no problems, even down to 15* with our last cold snap. You definitely need to watch your fuel filter depending on the age of the engine for a while. After 3k on B20 my filter was terrible along with some white goo in the canister. After that change and 1 more after another 3k all was fine and returned to normal.
 
JFaughn

I'm not sure by reading your post , but did you have a problum

Cattletrkr said:
... I had absolutely no probs until November, shortly after MN mandated all diesel be B2. I had a couple filters plug on the barrel and one or two in the truck.

Yes, I did have a problem, but not right away. Thus the conspiracy theorist in me thinks someone at the Koch refinery or wherever this stuff gets mixed "accidentally" dumped a few tons of crap into the supply lines just to give bio a bad name.



I had a hard time reading the article I referred to. It's like listening to a Ford guy tell me what's wrong with my cumminGs. Oo. Oo. Oo. So much bad info it's absurd.
 
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After further looking into this and talking to some anonymouse people that work in the industry , this is where you have to talk around things , and there are a few things being done that some claim are just mistakes , BUT!!! nobody has anything they are willing to prove. I wish I could post anonously.
The names have been change to protect the guilty and the little guys that could be stepped on.
Remember solar pannel don't work , you know those things that they put on multi millon dollar satlelites .
 
I never ran bio until #2 got so high priced there was no difference. I'm sure there are thousands of guys who did the same. I now have such hatred for the oil pricing scam that I'll probably run B5 or B10 once it warms up again. I put on too many miles so I can't afford to run B100 when it's higher, but I'll pay a premium just to "do my part".



That's another thing. I have no problem paying high prices for fuel, as long as I'm getting the best product they can produce. How many of us pay T-bone price for hamburger??? Sure it's good, but it ain't that good. *******s.
 
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