Blood Sacrifice

[loncray]

Aren't all the Christian holidays rooted in paganism of one sort or another? Easter - named for Eostre or Ishtar, pagan goddess of fertility. Christmas, moved from the actual birth of Christ sometime in the spring to the Feastday of Saturnalia. Halloween isn't the only one. So why aren't the fundamentalists getting Christmas moved to March or April? After all, we wouldn't want folks celebrating Saturnalia!

Christianity has only itself to blame if folks are celebrating what the fundamentalists consider dangerous holidays. In order to increase their popularity, first in Roman regions, later in the British Isles and Northern Europe, the early Christian missionaries incorporated all sorts of local customs and rituals into Christianity. That's how they spread so easily - it was more popular than simply destroying the nonbelievers. The Christians didn't really get into that until the Crusades.

 

[Hohn]

Originally posted by TPCDrafting

I think the real underlying question to this whole thread is: Should I use a sawzall or plunge router to carve my jack-o-lantern?

I would suggest a SAWZALL. Find the Milwaukee blade called "the Axe" in the 15" length. That should do nicely.



PS-- I love my 11-amp Milwaukee Orbital supersawzall. That thing is unstoppable.



hohn

 

[lpearson]

Some of your facts are correct.

When you say Christian are you referring to Roman Catholic? Ask a true one if they are Christian and they will say no I'm a Catholic.





The Bible doesn't say when Christ was born, however I believe you are correct in that it was in the Spring time around the month of Nisan (Hebrew). But since I can't prove this in scripture I won't stand on it.



I Believe that the Bible doesn't say when he was born because God doesn't really care about celebrating his birth. What he does care about is celebrating his Death and Resurrection, those two items were instituted by the apostles for the Church age. Communion and Water Baptism.



Your last paragraph is definately talking about the Papast Church (Roman Catholic)-- read about Constintine (the first Pope) and how he used the Church in the 4th century to bring in the pagans and their rites and rituals so as to use them for his conquests. He understood about getting to peoples beliefs and because beliefs are deep seated, not like opinions and attitudes he could manulipulate them to his liking. In "The Inqusition" that followed over the next 400 years the Roman Catholic Church murdered some 68,000,000 people, mostly Christian because they wouldn't join and accept the Popes and the Roman Catholic doctrines.



After the Protestant movement many of these pagan rooted holidays, idols and rites were adopted by those groups that spilt off from the Roman Church. Finally today there are some 300+ protestant type Churches in the world, some Christian and Bible believing others having the name, but denying the power thereof and compromising truth so as to get along with the secular world.



Regards,

Lowell

Originally posted by loncray



Aren't all the Christian holidays rooted in paganism of one sort or another? Easter - named for Eostre or Ishtar, pagan goddess of fertility. Christmas, moved from the actual birth of Christ sometime in the spring to the Feastday of Saturnalia. Halloween isn't the only one. So why aren't the fundamentalists getting Christmas moved to March or April? After all, we wouldn't want folks celebrating Saturnalia!

Christianity has only itself to blame if folks are celebrating what the fundamentalists consider dangerous holidays. In order to increase their popularity, first in Roman regions, later in the British Isles and Northern Europe, the early Christian missionaries incorporated all sorts of local customs and rituals into Christianity. That's how they spread so easily - it was more popular than simply destroying the nonbelievers. The Christians didn't really get into that until the Crusades.

 

[Sled Puller]

Listen, you guys argue the satan vs God stuff, but I tell you this:

If I knock on your door, and you don't give me candy,most assuredly, I will TP your house!!

 

[Champane Flight]

Darn good

You better have a darn good costume on SP, or I will turn the hose on you!

 

[Steve M]

I think the wife must be part witchy-poo. She decorates the house as much for holloween as she does for Christmas. I've been sneaking peanut MMs out of the black cast iron pot thing.

 

[Sled Puller]

Dig it shallow- then put a mirror in it--get it? FREAKY!