Boat Question

[GeneralMachine]

Where do you find a good site to find out how to winterize a inbord? Im thinking that it would be easyer to put the lower end in antifreeze and run the engine, just want to be sure it don't freeze. Harv

 

[parcher]

If there's no water in it... it can't freeze. Run the engine for a few seconds without the "ear muffs" on and it will pump the water out. See it there a drains on the side of block to let the rest of the water out. Is freezing that much of a concern in Texas?

 

[Alaskaskiff]

Take a look at www.iboats.com it rivals TDR quality, but in the recreational boat world.

 

[JR2]

Change the oil in the lower unit, change the oil in the engine if its a 4 stroke, run in fresh water or with ear muffs, run it dry, drain the rest if possible and park it.



Done



I have a drift boat... all I do is put the oars inside the garage. .

 

[GeneralMachine]

Freezing in Texas

Originally posted by parcher

If there's no water in it... it can't freeze. Run the engine for a few seconds without the "ear muffs" on and it will pump the water out. See it there a drains on the side of block to let the rest of the water out. Is freezing that much of a concern in Texas?

Parcher at times we have sub zero with a chill factor that has froze my water line bured two foot deep, I just don't want to get caught with my pants down. none of the books ive came across so far go in depth on getting it winterized as far as the drains. Found the plugs on the sides of the block, am trying to figure out how to drain the power steering oil cooler it's under the engine can't get to the hoses. Thanks for the reply's Harv

 

[parcher]

The sub zero temps could be a problem but wind chill has NO effect on the freezing of liquids. Wind chill is the rate of heat loss. Living things feel heat loss as an effect, inanimate objects do not. It can't get any colder than the air temperature.

 

[bighammer]

There are drain plugs on each side of the block, as well as in the cooling lines. Mine has 2 on one side, and 1 on the other for 5 total. Check the lines that head to the steering goodies at the rear. Look for low spots or dips that would trap water. lift them to drain. I have a steep drive so the angle helps. I park it both ways and tow to storage with the plugs out.



Don't forget to top the fuel and use Stabil. Run the engine enough to get it into the carb bowls. (I like to treat the fuel on the last ride of the season then top off)



Spray a fogging oil into the carb. A friend of mine sprays into ea sparkplug hole, but mine are too hard to get out. I just crank over w/o the coil wire to suck it in.

 

[Bill Lins]

Originally posted by parcher

The sub zero temps could be a problem but wind chill has NO effect on the freezing of liquids. Wind chill is the rate of heat loss. Living things feel heat loss as an effect, inanimate objects do not. It can't get any colder than the air temperature.

Not a flame, but a question. If the above is true, then why will ice form on a bridge but not on the road approaching it?

 

[E7mack96]

The main reason is that the ground that the road is built on is keeping the road warmer. Eventually the road will freeze as well if the temp stays low enough.

 

[parcher]

Think of wind chill as blowing on hot soup. If you left the soup alone it would cool of at a given rate, if you blow on it it cools faster. No matter how hard you blow on the soup you cannot get it's temerature below room temperature. The boat motor wont freeze in a 200 mph wind if the air temp is above 32 degrees. Even if you used a leaf blower, the soup would not freeze. By blowing on the soup you changed the rate of heat loss and nothing more. And yes, the land that the road sits on holds heat which is why bridges freeze first.

 

[GeneralMachine]

Ive seen Radator's freeze up running, due to the air flow across the fin's. we arn't talking snow ball's to snow ball's here. The chill factor play's a great part in freezeing. Harv

 

[Fireman Dave]

mack and parcher are correct. It's a physical impossibility for windchill to affect the freezing point of an inanimate object. If a radiator freezes, it's because the freeze point of the radiator (or coolant) is higher than the ambiant temperature. The fan will play no role in it. The fan could speed up the freezing if the coolant is warm, but only by helping disipate the warmth produced by the engine quicker than if there were no fan. The coolant will still eventually freeze if the ambiant temp is lower than the freeze point regardless of the fan. The fan will not lower the real temperature. If the coolant is good to -30, the fan will not cause it to freeze on a -29 degree day. Think about it - how can vehicles in the plains states survive -70 windchills? Who's coolant is good to that temp? Most are good to about -35.

Also, parking a vehicle with the engine facing away from the wind is another myth. It has no affect on restarting the vehicle (other than maybe keeping the engine warm longer if it's going to be restarted before the heat completely disipates). The wind will diipate the heat faster, but it will not lower the temperature. The soup analogy is right on the money. Or think of a bottle of water. Put a bottle of water outside on a 35 degree day (not in the sun) with the windchill at 10 degrees. The water will never freeze unless the real temp gets down to 32 or below.

 

[GeneralMachine]

Im not wanting to argu here, that's exactley what im saying if the temp is freezeing, and the wind is blowing at say 30 mph the freeze thang happen's alot sooner, just like the bowl of soop, it is gona cool off faster if you blow on it so will it freeze if the temp in the room is 32*. I reread the first post and i can see where this is going, I stated that the water line froze 2' under the ground it was sub zero and the wind chill with the temp that cold speed up the freezeing. Harv

 

[parcher]

But the deal with wind chill is perception. The weather man gives the temperature and then the wind chill factor, which is ALWAYS lower than the actual temperature. If the ambient temp is 33 degrees and the wind chill factor is 20 degrees it will FEEL Like its 20 degrees but NOTHING will freeze.

 

[parcher]

There is one more thing to conscider, veturi effect. On a cold rainy (warm enough that it's rain) it is possible to freeze up your carburetor. If the moving air is subjected to a veturi then the air pressure drops in the venturi and water will freeze above 32 degrees. I had this happen on a car I was driving, it choked the engine which then ran rich, if I sat still for a few minutes the heat from the engine would melt the ice and I could resume travel.

 

[GeneralMachine]

Maybe that's what happend the air going threw the fin's was like a venture and froze the rad solid, I was there the amb. temp was 34* and the rad was froze, I looked at a chart one time ill try to post it, right or not, it showed temp and wind chill and showed with the wind what the temp was. This rad im refering to had no coolant and it was sure froze. Harv

 

[radar doctor]

WATER ?????

Hey HARV, Where you got any water to put a Boat On in Odessa TX ???????Nothin down there but little biddy trees and Sand??? Right????

 

[GeneralMachine]

Water

We have lot's of lake's within two hour's drive from where i live. We like going to SanAngelo. Harv

 

[radar doctor]

Trailer wheels Bearings

Doesn't anyone know of a way to grease the wheel bearings with out taking off the wheel. I was thinking i saw someone that had a New way of doing this. . Bill