Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) bottom line question YES or NO !!

[continentaldrifter]

Can you run home heating fuel oil in our trucks!! This guy says yes,that guy says no,what the frigg. We're up to $1. 89 at the pump,my home heating guy is only $1. 35,i put additive in every tank anyway,regardless of the price for preventive maintenence,thats a savings of . 50 per gallon. Thats $15. 00 per tank full i'll save,times 1. 5 tanks a week,times four weeks thats an average of $90. 00 a month... ... ... ... ... Well,i ask you should i run it!!??

 

[JPS]

fuel

Not and be legal. Road tax, you know!!! jps

 

[Big White Beast]

Quit whining......

Diesel is $2. 47 a gallon out here. Welcome to Kalifornia.



Garrett

 

[Floor It]

I would not do it.



John

 

[DOUGMartin]

From what i under stand is the only dif. is the die. I know a few people who run heatinf oil in there trucks with no problume. You can also do the same thing but if god forbid some cop pulls you over and desides to dip your tank you are in for big fines. I have often thought of a nice 500gal heating tank with hand pump in the yard but living in town would kinda stick out too much. Also i do belive heating fuel is what the farmers run its just called farm diesel.

 

[John - K5AWO]

Originally posted by Burnt Toast

Can you run home heating fuel oil in our trucks!! Well,i ask you should i run it!!??

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It will run just fine, and as you say you put in additives anyway. If you are using heating oil, you are in a cold climate. Therefore it may need something to help keep it from gelling. Set some in the freezer or outside overnight, see if it gels.



Diesels will burn almost anything oily you can put in them. However, there are caveats like gelling, viscosity, lubricity (add real oil or fuel pump lubes), waste oil (properly filtered to remove contaminents), vegetable oils, etc... Each has its' own preparations required to make it a viable fuel.



I have some beads I bought from www.hydrogenappliances.com, I use those to treat possible fuels with before putting anything in the tank.



Your home heating oil is clean enough as it comes, just make sure it won't gel. And just when was the last time you ever got pulled over to have your fuel tested in the tank? Never in my case, it is not a worry for me.



As for cost at the pump? In Phoenix, AZ areas it is over $2. 25 and climbing for the low sulphur grades allowed in Maricoppa county. Some of the rip-off stations along the freeways are $2. 78/gal today. I can leave the county and get it for $2. 06/gallon. But then I have to figure in the fuel burnt just to get to that pump. If I am there anywell, well 84 gallons total capacity makes it a mute point. I carry another 110 gallon tank for those moments in time.



John

 

[dresslered]

Truck won't mind but the authorities will--felony tax evasion! Lovin' these Kalifornia prices!

 

[Big-D]

A few weeks ago the State Patrol made a visit to our local livestock auction yard. Although they remained outside the gate every diesel truck was dye checked prior to being released from the only exit of the yard. Those farmers that were running "red" received a summons and released.



Be aware of large gatherings of diesel trucks if you're running non-road taxed fuel. It seems to be an open invitation for a visit by those that serve and protect... I heard the fine can reach $1K in our state of Washington.

Dave

 

[DLBurns]

Originally posted by Big-D

A few weeks ago the State Patrol made a visit to our local livestock auction yard. Although they remained outside the gate every diesel truck was die checked prior to being released from the only exit of the yard. Those farmers that were running "red" received a summons and released.



Be aware of large gatherings of diesel trucks if you're running non-road taxed fuel. It seems to be an open invitation for a visit by those that serve and protect... I heard the fine can reach $1K in our state of Washington.

Dave

Only a 1K fine... . that will soon be the price of a tank of diesel here in the golden state

 

[continentaldrifter]

I've got over 500,000 miles between two Petercars and have been pulled into many NYSDOT stops and out of probably 50 my tanks were checked once. As far as running it in this tiny 2500,i wouldnt think twice about the legality of it!!Taxes were supposed to be "temporary",then the government like the free money so they've been milking us for trillions each year. I'm gonna stop here as i'm not too fond of our lying and cheating system. But what i will think twice about is:





"WILL IT HURT MY CUMMINS"?????

 

[John - K5AWO]

Originally posted by Burnt Toast

"WILL IT HURT MY CUMMINS"?????

No...

 

[NIsaacs]

BURNT TOAST;

Home heating oil is about the same thing as #1 Diesel fuel. Cummins does not recommend using a steady diet of #1. It is ok in an emergency to get you home if #2 is not available. #1 fuel does not have the lubrication of #2 nor does it have the BTU. I am sure you have noticed that in the summer your Cummins runs stronger and gets better fuel mileage. This is because winter fuel is a blend of #1 (it will flow in very cold temperatures) and #2. Summer fuel is straight # 2.



"IF IT AIN'T CUMMINS POWERED, IT AIN'T A TRUCK"



"NICK"

 

[Cummins Pilot]

If you live in Alaska you get #1 for about 8 months of the year. Heating fuel comes in #2 in -15 or +10 temps. -15 with PS additive will work just fine at -40.



And no red dye in the heating fuel up here.



MMMMM Smells like diesel.

 

[Mad Bomber]

$$$

Buff, I belive the fine is more like 10K and up

 

[lmills]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber

Buff, I belive the fine is more like 10K and up

The first fine my brother-in-law received was around $1,000. However he was warned that next time it would cost him $10,000 per gallon.

 

[Midnite]

Originally posted by Cummins Pilot



And no red dye in the heating fuel up here.

We have an exemption, so up here in Alaska we can legally run anything we want to, no matter what color it may be dyed, with no fear of any fines whatsoever.



Naturally that will be changing very soon.



Mike

 

[cumminspwr01]

Here in Pa I believe our fine for the kool aid is $1k a gallon

 

[GFrance]

Originally posted by Burnt Toast

I've got over 500,000 miles between two Petercars and have been pulled into many NYSDOT stops and out of probably 50 my tanks were checked once. As far as running it in this tiny 2500,i wouldnt think twice about the legality of it!!Taxes were supposed to be "temporary",then the government like the free money so they've been milking us for trillions each year. I'm gonna stop here as i'm not too fond of our lying and cheating system. But what i will think twice about is:





"WILL IT HURT MY CUMMINS"?????

No it won't hurt your cummins just your wallet if you get caught.

At the pipeline where I load at we can pull low sulpher dyed diesel or high sulpher dyed diesel. Both are used for heating oil. The high sulpher is being phased out I thinh by 2007 like it's been said the dye is to identify for tax purposes only.