Bought Smarty - My Impressions

[WPeschel]

This is a Smarty thread, but you are incorrect, I have proven this to myself, over and over.



I am currently running my EZ on 2, with any combination of TST or Smarty, if I raise the EZ to 3 , egt's jump almost 200*, if I set the EZ on 4, it will bury my pyro(1600+)



Anybody wants to ride with me, I will prove it!



On Edit: The higher the setting on the EZ, the more power, right?

Then why do you believe the people that are running the TST/EZ

stack are keeping the EZ to 2, 3 max.

You could argue that they are worried about excessive pressure,

in reality, it is because egt's get out of control. Anybody with an

EZ can test it themselves.



Cheers, Jess, sorry about hijacking the thread.

Well I dont run a Smarty yet, but with my recent stack the ez on level 3 would run egts cooler, not necessarily cooler but slowed the egt guage down that was with a stock turbo... . Just search there are many others with the same outcome... I was told on here to stack the ez or MP8 with the tst/bddl stack to cool it a lil. . I did not really tell any increas in hp from the butt-O-meter...

 

[Mobius1]

update

I brought the truck back to stock software nad of course egts were lower but still hotter than I believe they should be.



I also noticed that the truck jsut cannot build boost. It is very hard to get the boost to even 40 psi. Before with smarty on 4 and tst on 4x3 I could get 50 psi easy, Now I can barely reach 35-40.



I can also hear a Whooosh noise they the turbo's spool. Just sounds different than before. I don't see any visible boot cracks or blown intercooler, plus it sounds like its coming from the turbo side of the motor. I will look again real soon.



Does anyone know a good way to check for boost leaks other than power brakeing it and having a buddy listen for leaks?



Any help is appreciated!!!

 

[MA2LA]

This is a Smarty thread, but you are incorrect, I have proven this to myself, over and over.



I am currently running my EZ on 2, with any combination of TST or Smarty, if I raise the EZ to 3 , egt's jump almost 200*, if I set the EZ on 4, it will bury my pyro(1600+)



Anybody wants to ride with me, I will prove it!



On Edit: The higher the setting on the EZ, the more power, right?

Then why do you believe the people that are running the TST/EZ

stack are keeping the EZ to 2, 3 max.

You could argue that they are worried about excessive pressure,

in reality, it is because egt's get out of control. Anybody with an

EZ can test it themselves.



Cheers, Jess, sorry about hijacking the thread.

I have a Jr stacked with an mp-8 and the mp-8 actualy has lowered my egts. with the mp-8 turned to max and the Jr on 70 i have yet to see over 1200 and I;m not easy on this thing at all. and I also see less smoke from bottom end.

 

[Marco]

TODAY the "standard" softwares like the ones that you can download from our website do NOT raise the rail pressure. That is going to change once the "Revo" softwares will be released when the beta testing will be finished . Yet, even the Revo SW's default rail pressure will be very very close to stock. Then if you want to, you can select higher RP settings.

I've never been a fan of raised RP's on stock injection systems / trucks. I've seen way to many injection system failures due to raised RP's. Obviously for a race truck things in the RP department are quiet different...

In my mind, longevity is more important than overall performance. That's as long as we talk daily drivers... .

In order to keep the EGT's in check in the 235-305 Hp engines ( '03-'04 ) you need a boost elbov in order to raise the boost to about 38-40 Psi.

Now, in this thread the diablo has been mentioned. They raise the RP to in the "long" run, unsafe levels even with a modified injection system.
This is my personal "opinion" !

Does it help the EGT's ? Yes, to some degree. Does it help HP? Of course!
Will the injectors last? NO.

Due to the fact that Smarty does not raise the RP, the stack Smarty/MP/EZ just tom mention a few has become rather popular. At least with a stack you can decide how high you want to crank the RP and for how long.

Marco

 

[5POINT9]

Well, I am going back to diablo after running the smarty. I ran it for 3-4 weeks before returning it to the store that I bought it from (minus 10% "restock fee ). I monitored the rp and will compare it to the diablo on extreme. I don't doubt that the rkl tunes raise rail pressure, but I would like to see if extreme does. From my sotp, on my 03, diablo extreme and smarty sw9 (base software) felt similar.

We will see.

 

[Mobius1]

Another Update

I figured out that it was my intercooler that had sprung a leak. Hot air was blowing out of it pretty bad when under boost. Unfortunetely it was not covered by my extended Service contract, but the dealer was able to make a deal and get it covered under the service contract. Just pay the $100 deductable.



A pretty good deal in my book. The retail price for a stock intercooler is $750. 00 looks like I made out pretty good.

 

[JJPage]

This is a Smarty thread, but you are incorrect, I have proven this to myself, over and over.



I am currently running my EZ on 2, with any combination of TST or Smarty, if I raise the EZ to 3 , egt's jump almost 200*, if I set the EZ on 4, it will bury my pyro(1600+)



Anybody wants to ride with me, I will prove it!



On Edit: The higher the setting on the EZ, the more power, right?

Then why do you believe the people that are running the TST/EZ

stack are keeping the EZ to 2, 3 max.

You could argue that they are worried about excessive pressure,

in reality, it is because egt's get out of control. Anybody with an

EZ can test it themselves.



Cheers, Jess, sorry about hijacking the thread.

I will stand by my statement, maybe the MP8 is magical, raising the level of the EZ, raises your egt's.

 

[JJPage]

That is untrue... If you stack a pressure box with a box like smarty or tst that does duration and timing it will actually decrease egts compared to running the tst alone...

This is a Smarty thread, but you are incorrect, I have proven this to myself, over and over.



I am currently running my EZ on 2, with any combination of TST or Smarty, if I raise the EZ to 3 , egt's jump almost 200*, if I set the EZ on 4, it will bury my pyro(1600+)



Anybody wants to ride with me, I will prove it!



On Edit: The higher the setting on the EZ, the more power, right?

Then why do you believe the people that are running the TST/EZ

stack are keeping the EZ to 2, 3 max.

You could argue that they are worried about excessive pressure,

in reality, it is because egt's get out of control. Anybody with an

EZ can test it themselves.



Cheers, Jess, sorry about hijacking the thread.

Well I dont run a Smarty yet, but with my recent stack the ez on level 3 would run egts cooler, not necessarily cooler but slowed the egt guage down that was with a stock turbo... . Just search there are many others with the same outcome... I was told on here to stack the ez or MP8 with the tst/bddl stack to cool it a lil. . I did not really tell any increas in hp from the butt-O-meter...

I have a Jr stacked with an mp-8 and the mp-8 actualy has lowered my egts. with the mp-8 turned to max and the Jr on 70 i have yet to see over 1200 and I;m not easy on this thing at all. and I also see less smoke from bottom end.

Every truck behaves in their own seperate manner, depending on mods.



If you tell me your truck releases cooler egt's with pressure, who am I to say it does not? With my current setup/configuration, pressure(EZ) increases my egt's.

 

[Forrest Nearing]

are you running a rail pressure gauge?



if you run a pressure box that jacks rail pressure high and early in your run and the CP3 can't keep up, you're going to have crappy burn and high EGT's due to the lower rail pressure