Bullydog downloader

[Bertram65]

Doug,

Maybe you could research it a little better. You can control power from the in cab monitor. I dont know the name of it right now but it is the same as the Attitude. 0%, 25%,50%,100%. Sounds like four levels to me..... ? Plus if you add in a volumizer, there are three more sub levels... ..... Sounds a little adjustable to me..... !



Greg

Are you talking about the Bully Dog downloader? Everything I have read says you are downloading code to the ECM through the ORB port, you can only load one level at a time, not on the fly either.

 

[TFerrari]

I called Wes today and I am in on the group buy. We have 5 so far so place your orders now!

 

[MUDDY]

I'm sure interested to hear more about this downloader. I'm pretty sure I'm willing to trade in cab adjustability for swearing and struggling plugging in a box.

yepp,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and on the 3gen it is a pita to plug in some of the boxes too. the ones where ya gotta crawl under the rig to get to the 2 hard to reach plugs. one of em especially a hard to handle plug. small sized strong hands a must for that one and layin on the cold wet ground,,,,,,no fun. i had to have someone plug in and unplug a former box for me. no cld do even on the best of days.



runnin empty just run it on extreme and run on performance w/ a trlr and the temps be cool enuff. heck,,,,,,,,,only 8 minutes download time and a few seconds to plug in and unplug. simple to do. heck,,ya can change programs while ya be cinchin down the trailer. or just run performance mode most the time. plenty snappy on that one this unit runs amazingly cool egt due to the combo of timing/duration/pressure all in moderation. someone posted asking about how much fuelpressure. i was told 30hp worth of pressure in performance and 50 hp worth in extreme and none in tow. not too much railpressure even in the highest program. a good combo to help keep the egt cool. if i didnt run 2 pyros both preturbo i prolly wldve thought my guage was off but both read close to same.



the ultimate of course is to do the outlook monitor in combo with the powerpup. set it to defuel at a certain egt and dont worry bout it. heck,,,with that ya may be able to trust your wife or kid to drive the rig w/ a load behind it. and the ability to set it at a lower fueling level as a valet switch would be awesome. Oo.

 

[LightmanE300]

As far as I know, you need the Outlook monitor to have any on the fly in cab adjustability. To be honest, I don't think I'll want to switch levels that often. I'll find a level that works EGT and 48RE wise, and leave it most likely. I think it may keep my drivetrain a bit safer than having in cab adjustability - the reason being that when some jackass pulls up to me at a stop light wanting to race, I wont be tempted to immediately crank up the settings and possibly compromise my truck's parts. . Darn it I need an ATS, what a f-ing stupid mistake I made buying an automatic. STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!!!!!!

 

[DLeno]

greg -- I was refering to just the downloader itself without the Outlook. Still, there is only one program loaded into the ECM. Someone correct me here, but I think the monitor would let you adjust percentages of whatever program was already loaded.

 

[Diesel Dan]

Muddymess

You are correct. The Outlook and the Power Pup are the ultimate solution. Since i don't tow anything but 2,000 max i am leaving mine on the insane level and running around @ 50% on the outlook(Volumizer is off) and it feels very similar to the Volumizer on full but smoother all throught the rev range. The power comes on immediatly off idle all the way thru redline. I think they (bullydog) are working on that pesky redline problem. Then, when an opportunity presents itself a few clicks up to 100% and there is a spanking coming. If i feel intimidated by said victim 2 more clicks on the volumizer and a prayer to the clutch and this guy is toast. I figure i am over 500 RWHP and that is an amazing ride let me tell ya. 5th gear 40-70 bursts are apx 2 seconds depending how much the clutch complains. anything less than a new Porsche turbo is not going to stay with me. I would give up my first born for a 6 speed out of an SRT-10 as the NV5600 is just too slow to shift.



Here ricer ricer a spanking wont hurt that bad ... ... ... i promise :-laf :-laf



DD

 

[DLeno]

whoo hoo! good report DD. The Volumizer sounds like a good stack as well. Other aggressive pressure boxe might to well too. Can you comment on the drivability on the six speed at low power levels? this outlook thing sounds very cool.



you still using the stock turbocharger? that won't last long...

You need to get that thing on the dyno. 500 HP is serious power. The stock clutch doesn't have a prayer.

 

[Diesel Dan]

Dleno,

Drivability is excellent at all levels on the outlook. I have only ran "Insane" mode on the Power Pup. This is far and away the most smooth power adder i have ever added to any truck. It does take a minute or two to reprogram your foot. I would not call it touchy more like very precise. move the pedal, get more excelleration. I don't think i would run "insane" mode for a long trip on the highway as i think it would surge. I guess that is what "performance" setting is for. I have several friends from the local chapter that i am meeting up with this week and we are going to return my truck to stock(only for a short time) and put the new program in there truck for a test spin. I am wondering if a drivetrain/speeding ticket waiver is not a bad idea :-laf



Best regards



DD

 

[Diesel Dan]

Sorry i didn't see the othe comment,



Yes stock turbo. only seeing 38 lbs of boost max so maybe it will make it for a while. But you are wrong about the clutch, It has been praying to me daily to be nice too it :-laf



After a southbend Con FE, a new turbo(??) and a pusher pump a dynoing i will go.



DD

 

[realsquash]

Where does the Outlook plug in?



Andy

 

[silverram03]

How about some pics with the outlook mounted?

 

[DLeno]

DD: hah! good comments about drivability. I was wondering how the six speed would behave because I wasn't sure how fine they can tune the fueling "curves" (which are implimented as tables with numbers in them). so thats good to know.



As a reality check, the stock turbo at 38 psi (do you have a boost elbow installed?)and the stock clutch are good clues that you're not making 500 HP...

 

[Diesel Dan]

Andy,

The Outlook plugs in the MAP sensor and the Datalink connector under the hood. Very easy to install.



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[Diesel Dan]

Doug,



Did the math and checked the calibration on my Butt-o-meter and they both say 500RWH



Truck dynoed at 260 hp



Downloader dynoed at 183hp



Volumizer is good for 120hp

taking into consideration duplicat gains for both boxes. lets say 1/2 gain from Volumizer = 60 hp It is at least a 60 hp diff when I flip the switch



Banks exhaust and Airaid intake are good for at least 10hp

260+183+60+10= 513 RWHP



Clutch slips in 4,5 and 6 gears. I feel the truck puts out apx 500 rwhp doesn't mean that i am getting it all to the ground considering clutch slippage.



My 01 was good for 411 RWHP and this one feels like 100 more. Maybe i am wrong but i don't think so.



DD

 

[Boostn]

Andy,

The Outlook plugs in the MAP sensor and the Datalink connector under the hood. Very easy to install.



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nice, how do I get that SRT-10 pillar?



already found one for good price locally. Looking nice and looking forward getting one on mine

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

So I guess I have to try and get technical here on a HS diploma, Huh?



If you are adjusting an Edge comp on an 01 you are adjusting the percentage of fuel allowed to enter the injector, Right? Now to the stock program on the 03. We can manipulate the fuel curve with an EZ, Volumizer, Predator... ... Right. Some can be done in cab some cant. If you ad 25% over stock with the outlook, your adjustability to the installed program is changed. If you add the BullyDog program the same thing happens I would guess. So that is why I stated that it was adjustable. I may have miss stated the facts but I was trying to say that it was adjustable.



Greg

 

[manganos]

how do i get in

I called Wes today and I am in on the group buy. We have 5 so far so place your orders now!

So how do I get into the group buy. I need this

 

[fencebuilders]

RAMifier and BullyDog..........................

HMMMMM,got my attention,im thinking of stacking it with my RAMifier,so much for the 48 and stock turbo though. Any mileage reports on this unit yet?

 

[TFerrari]

Manganos- Check the other bullydog thread for Wes's number.

 

[DLeno]

HMMMMM,got my attention,im thinking of stacking it with my RAMifier,so much for the 48 and stock turbo though. Any mileage reports on this unit yet?

hey that would probably make a good stack, fencebuilders. he's already got it working with the volumizer which does the enhanced boost fooling. I bet any agressive pressure box in the 26,000 psi region would do well. the downloader is duration heavy and intended to stack with a pressure box.



DD: yup, sure looks like it could be (close to 500 HP). The volumizer though, I dont' think will make 120 HP at the rear wheels unless you got one of the early ones which I think were bully dog timing/pressure boxes. Today's volumizer is about 100 I think.



Actually, part of the reason for my comment was that not that you dont' have the fuel -- just that the stock clutch probably won't deliver it to the ground! so I'm not picking an argument, just noting that you're in need of some serious upgrades to keep up with all that! boy, 183HP from the downloader. 260 stock pretty much validates the dyno numbers are not goofed up. no wonder you said it would challenge a TST . thats impressive indeed. especially with stock injectors. I dont' think any other two-box stack can make 500 HP (considering the downloader as a "box"). guys are stacking two boxes with injectors to get that. man you need to get that FE in there and get on the dyno! and you're gonna loose that turbo in short order making that kind of power.



BTW, how do we rationalize the fact that bullydog claims 130HP on insane mode and you measured 182?