Bush isn't going to help us!

[hammersley]

When Bush went into office and was reviewing the last minute Exec Orders issued by Clinton, I thought for sure that the EPA rule for lowsulphur diesel fuel etc would certainly be eliminated. However I read last week that our President has decided to let stand the Clinton EPA rules regarding diesel fuel that are to go into place in the 2006-07 timeframe. Where are the lobbyist when we need them???????

 

[Sled Puller]

Flood your Congress members with mail and phone calls, only way they know how the voters feel.
Gene

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1997 Cummins Dodge 4x4 Bombed & Amsoiled. Amsoil Premiere Direct Jobber, Member of: NRA Business Alliance, GLTDR, WANTED: Wrecked Dodges.
www.awdist.com

 

[TowPro]

Whats wrong with lower sulpher fuel? Most of the Europian Diesel manafacturs will not even sell there engines here because the fuel is to hard on there equipment!

They been running the lower sulpher fuel for a while now.

The only problem I see with the new fuel is the way the people that make it are going to SCREW us with prices saying "it cost more to produce"

 

[John Berger]

TowPro, that's exactly the problem. Interesting side note: I was coming home from Bristol, TN yesterday and it's amazing how we get gouged in the cities on diesel fuel. The price of fuel in South Carolina is competitive with Georgia, which on average, has the lowest prices in the country. In Columbia, the lowest price I saw was $1. 39. About 25 miles further east at Exit 139 on I-26, a Citgo truck stop, the price was $1. 21. Must be all of those city taxes... or greed. Fellas, we're getting gouged, plain and simple. As far as Dubya is concerned, I think the reality of the situation is that we're going to be stuck with low sulfur fuel. I would like to see him undo that executive order, but I think the more realistic approach is to be more reliant on our own oil. I wonder how the lower sulfur fuel will affect at that time, will be much older trucks, such as my 99. I plan on having my truck for a long time.

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1999 Dodge Ram 3500 Quad Cab 5 spd; 4:10 LSD rear; Mag-Hytec diff. cover; US Gear EGT and Boost gauges. Amsoil foam air filter and synthetics from nose to tail.
Cummins Power, don't leave home without it

[This message has been edited by John Berger (edited 03-27-2001). ]

 

[Scooby]

Heck, I'm feeling good if I can fill up for less than $1. 70 per gallon. There is a station closer to my home that is still over $2. 00 per gal. Funny enough, it's only 4 more blocks to the $1. 70 station (same oil companies too!)

 

[jponder]

Originally posted by Scooby:
Heck, I'm feeling good if I can fill up for less than $1. 70 per gallon. There is a station closer to my home that is still over $2. 00 per gal. Funny enough, it's only 4 more blocks to the $1. 70 station (same oil companies too!)

Sounds like CALIFORNIA to me. When I was in California I started taking pictures of the gas station prices. When I show people pictures of Yosemite or SanFran they never show any reaction till they see the pictures of Pump Prices out there. Then they say WOW!!!!!!


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2001 ETH/DEE ST 4X4 SPACE SHUTTLE

 

[Lhotka]

A little off the subject, but why would Bush be considered a friend? The oil companies (Bush) are screwing us on fuel prices. Alaskan's pay some of the highest fuel prices in the nation and we are located right next to the source. No transportation costs and low, almost none existent taxes on fuel. Big oil funded Bush's campaign, he won't be helping with lower fuel costs.

 

[David_VT]

$1. 89 in Northern Vermont #ad

 

[David Brown]

Hey, Guys it's about a buck thirty here in the Land if Clinton. So don't complain, just be happy you're not driving a gasser.

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[Ralph Edward]

Lhotka You may be at the source but how many refineries do you have. Clinton-Gore with their EPA buddies have shut down a lot of them one reason prices are more.

 

[Scooby]

jponder,

You guessed it! Now if you go to the nice beach cities (Santa Barbara, etc... ) you'll really be stunned. Bring your first born as a trade at the pump.

 

[gitchesum]

Originally posted by Ralph Edward:
Lhotka You may be at the source but how many refineries do you have. Clinton-Gore with their EPA buddies have shut down a lot of them one reason prices are more.

I work at one and have another one within 15 miles of the house. I saw a price of $1. 50 at a station today. Now that is a bit high for around here but it just goes to show that just cause your near the source or the refinery(refineries in my case) you still pay the price.


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1997 3500 Club Cab
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[Keith Eilers]

Lhotka,

Be careful before blaming us evil oil companies. I've worked the oilwell side of the business for 2 decades and can assure you that on a global scale, it is incredibly competitive. No body felt sorry for us when prices were low and the employees were loosing their jobs. Now that low supply and high demand have resulted in much higher free market prices, we are eveyone's favorite punching bag.

Notice that I said competitive on a "global scale". It may be that certain isolated markets do not have enough supply/competition to drive prices down. Is Alaska such a place? It does not matter if the oil is produced there, where is it refined? You have a refinery at North Pole (very close to Fairbanks). Does it produce diesel or just jet fuel for the military? If you have inadequate local refining for diesel, then it is refined elsewhere and shipped into Alaska thus raising the cost. This is true for many other items as well. I'd bet that you pay an even bigger premium for your food. Such is the price of choosing to live so far from where the food is made.

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Keith Eilers, 99, 2500, 5sp, LB, QC, 4wd

 

[danandamy]

#ad
$1. 35 a gallon #ad
I'm considering buying one of those big overhead tanks and stocking up before it goes back up again #ad


Daniel

 

[Lhotka]

Alaska's multiple refineries produce all types of fuel. The theory of supply (oil companies control supply)and demand isn't an issue in Alaska's unique market. The market here experiences no interruption in supply and constant, or most recently, reduced demand (We had the second warmest winter on record). Alaskans were paying $1. 30 for unleaded fuel when most of the lower 48 was paying . 87 cents. A few days after our State Attorney General launched an investigation to determine if there had been price fixing, the price of fuel dropped for no apparent reason. Alaskans do pay more for most consumer goods due to shipping costs, but that is easily understood and to be expected. Higher than normal fuel prices for my 24v diesel are in question here. Your comment stating "Such is the price of choosing to live so far from where the food is made" is not fair. Such as "getting layed off is the price you pay for choosing to work in an industry that is susceptible to market fluctuations". American's depend on oil and suppliers know it.