California Trucks

[nball]

A guy I work with had to buy a new truck while on vacation in Utah The dealer assured him it was California legal. . Now back in Ca. the DMV says NO. Does anyone know what it would take to convert this Truck to Ca. specs... the dealer and dodge have both told him tough luck... . :-{}

 

[RTuvell]

Do a search on this subject. There was a lengthy thread sometime around June of this year that went into this subject. In that case a Nevada dealer took the truck back and the buyer got a "California" truck. I believe the bottom line is there is no way that a new "non-California" truck can be converted to a new "California" truck to satisfy the California DMV.

 

[pgleavitt]

A few years back I was working for a Calif. drilling contractor and was told to find myself a new F450 cab/chassis. I contacted a place in Idaho and one in Ohio for the best avail. price and both told me when they found out that I was in Calif. that it was illegal for them to sell to me if I was going to register it in Ca. They both told me that I would have to buy one in Ca.

 

[thejeepdude]

If he had to buy it due to being stranded my the vehicle he was driving while in Utah (broke down beyond reasonable repair), then there is a provision in the law to allow the non-CA truck to be registered here. I believe he must have proof from the dealer he purchased the truck from that they received a CA registered truck that was beyond repair as a trade-in, or something to that effect. I'm not exactly sure of the particulars, but I contemplated this at one point when I wanted to buy a truck from Tomeygun in St Louis, but it turned out to be too much of a hassle for the few hundred bucks I was going to save. Might want to have him look into this, though... .

 

[trailexplorer]

I am still currently dealing with this situation myself. The dealer ordered a 05 to replace my 04. 5 that I was unable to register in Cali. I was assured by the dealer and a unknown DC rep. that I would have vehicle price protection (not rebate protection) and that I was ordered the exact same vehicle in a 05. I discovered after many discussions with SCOTT REBAR and his "Team" at DESERT DODGE in Las Vegas Nevada, that my 05 was similar in price (not the same) only because they did not order options that my 04. 5 had on it in order to get the price the same. They assured me I was getting everything they promised.

Now that I have gotten of my soap box the bottom line is that unless you have 7500 miles on the vehicle or were forced to buy a non-conforming Cali vehicle out of state your options are greatly reduced. I am currently navigating different routes and would be glad to update you with any info I obtain. PM with any questions.

I have already received the rejection letter from DMV and am keeping the truck on private property till I find another Ave. Amazing that Cali would turn away 1000 reg. fee and 3500 sales tax. This state is defininetely Golden.



And watch out for Desert Dodge in Las Vegas NV. Dealer salesman Scott Rebar and General Manager Pam will not return my phone calls. 5 star my @!!

 

[MegaRocks]

I purchased a new 04. 5 Cummins in Carson City, NV this summer. The truck says "meets California Emissions Requirements" or something to that effect right on the rocker box cover. It was not easy to get someone good at California DMV to recognize this, but I did get my truck registered in CA. It was some grief though.



If it says California on the engine cover, argue with them. I believe that in that case, it is a California spec. truck in a nearby state.

 

[luvrox]

I think most of you are just perpetuating old wives tails. I ordered a 04. 5 600 3500 dually from Larry Miller Dodge in Boise ID with the understanding it would be a CA Border States vehicle. Border States would be Id, WA, NV, OR and AZ. When I returned to CA after a 5000 mi. trip to British Columbia, I was sweating bullets about registration. Other than the fact, they thought Norco CA and Simi Valley were next to each other which caused a 250 mile round trip there were no issues at all. Oh by the way, Larry Miller Dodge was truly a class act.

Garry

 

[RTuvell]

I think most of you are just perpetuating old wives tails.

Garry

It sounds as if you are accusing some posters of misrepresenting the California DMV registration issues. Exactly what do you claim has been misrepresented here?



I'm glad to hear that things worked out for you but your positive experience does not give you the right to question the integrity of others who have had problems.

 

[luvrox]

It sounds as if you are accusing some posters of misrepresenting the California DMV registration issues. Exactly what do you claim has been misrepresented here?

I'm glad to hear that things worked out for you but your positive experience does not give you the right to question the integrity of others who have had problems.

RTuvell:

My statement was based on fact. I do agree that CA dmv is close to impossible to do business with, however if ya got all your ducks in a row it isn’t that big a deal.

Garry

 

[thejeepdude]

RTuvell:

My statement was based on fact. I do agree that CA dmv is close to impossible to do business with, however if ya got all your ducks in a row it isn’t that big a deal.

Garry

You had a CA certified truck, and your statement was based on your circumstances. You're missing the point. Apparently, someone was down-and-out in a non-ca non-border state, and had to buy a new truck. The CA DMV is less than friendly in this situation. For those that for one reason or another didn't get the CA certification (such as those misled by the dealer) it a lot more of a hassle or in some cases impossible to get registered here in Kalifornia and is not just a matter of "having their ducks in a row". Granted, people should be more careful, and I wouldn't buy a truck with less than 7500 miles and no CA sticker on the engine.

 

[luvrox]

Granted, people should be more careful, and I wouldn't buy a truck with less than 7500 miles and no CA sticker on the engine.

I rest my case.

Garry

 

[RTuvell]

I rest my case.

Garry

So your "case/purpose of your post" is to belittle people with California DMV problems. A great contribution to this thread!

 

[PJ]

So your "case/purpose of your post" is to belittle people with California DMV problems. A great contribution to this thread!

No... I think you miss the point. The Calif DMV is something out of the Hitler era. They are the reason I joined AAA when I lived in Calif. Now Im a dual resident and since I have my home 51% or more in Oregon, i choose to pay no tax to Calif , nor deal with the DMV. I might add that the Oregon DMV is such a pleasure to work with regardless that your 4 year tags on the truck are about $26 a year! I love driving my Oregon registered cars and truck in Calif! Nothing any of the county mounties can do about it anyway. It just feel good after all the years I was abused by the Kolofornia DMV! :-laf Oo.

 

[nball]

Thanks for the info... ... . I'm going to suggest to my co-worker that he join AAA and put 7500 miles on the truck,and avoid the DMV... ... ... ... ... norm

 

[WMcGuire]

If any have questions about what is legal in California just visit their website at dmv. ca.gov. or something like that. . outside of the rare replacement of a unrepairable vehicle (totalled), or a used vehicle (over 7500 miles), or a family transfer, there is little wiggle room to get around the rules, which by the way aren't promulgated by DMV but by the Air Resources Board, the only vehicles allowed to be registered in California are one from border states (Oregon, Nevada and Arizona) and must have the California emissions sticker, otherwise it is a one way trip permit out of the state, that said, if you have a sister in Missouri that you trust...

 

[RTuvell]

Thanks for the info... ... . I'm going to suggest to my co-worker that he join AAA and put 7500 miles on the truck,and avoid the DMV... ... ... ... ... norm

IMHO none of your plans will work to solve the problem.



My understanding is that the California DMV does not give AAA the authority to register "out of state vehicles" such as in this case. DMV reserves that authority only for themself. I believe this is stated on the California AAA web site or you can call them for confirmation.



I thought you said that your co-worker has already met with the DMV about registering this truck. If so, then the DMV may already have his VIN number and know that there has been an attempt to register this vehicle inappropriately and it was rejected.



Finally, the DMV rules clearly state that you cannot drive the vehicle to achieve the 7500 mile exemption. The 7500 miles had to be on the odometer "at the time of purchase". The mileage on the vehicle "at the time of purchase" was recorded by the seller (in this case the dealer) on the sales receipt that must be given to the DMV at time of registration.



Your co-worker's best recourse is to get the dealership to take the truck back and give him a California certified truck or a full refund.

 

[JKlopp]

The Calif DMV is a scary thing. The local smog laws are from the AQMD, Air quality management district in southern Calif. Back in 96 I orderd a 2500 that at the time was suposed to have 215 HP. When deliverd in So Cal it had 185 HP and the dealer said take it or leave it. I took it and was happy but upset with the de tune. I now have on order a "50 state legal" 05 that is suposed to have 325 HP and 610 Ft Lb tourque. The catalog said 600. My fingers are crossed.

 

[abdiver]

No... The Calif DMV is something out of the Hitler era. They are the reason I joined AAA when I lived in Calif. Now Im a dual resident and since I have my home 51% or more in Oregon, i choose to pay no tax to Calif , nor deal with the DMV. I might add that the Oregon DMV is such a pleasure to work with regardless that your 4 year tags on the truck are about $26 a year! I love driving my Oregon registered cars and truck in Calif! Nothing any of the county mounties can do about it anyway. It just feel good after all the years I was abused by the Kolofornia DMV! :-laf Oo.

PJ Please tell me more What is required to be a dual resident of Ore and Ca



Thanks

 

[Winston Wolf]

JKlopp...



You will get a 325/610. That's what I just got (I'm near Sacramento).

 

[RMontoya]

I believe the California DMV to be nazi-like. I purchased a 50 state legal Subaru in Oregon ( California legal sticker on the engine). When I went to pay the tax and license the car in California a few days later I was forced to pay money to have the vehicle "smog certified". I pointed out to the DMV the 50 state legal certificate, they were unwilling to accept anything other than a certificate from a California emmissions station.



Dam theiving pirates.