Calling all brake gurus

[craftybigdog]

Okay Ive been doing alot of searching and no place that I have found really offers better brake pads than what we have already. I dont want to get a pad that lasts real long because its hard on the rotor. Have any of you guys upgraded the calipers and if so where did you get them from, any input would be greatly appreciated thanks alot!

 

[Shooter]

I do not think that upgrading the caliper is going to increase the friction coeficient, and heat fading of soft gentile linings.



The carbon metalic pads I use are not for being cheap and not wanting to spend and hour to change pads but when I need to stop : I WILL

If I need to replace rotors every 100k mi then so be it.



JMHO

 

[Alan Reagan]

There was an issue of TDR about 3 back that had AGR (?) rotors and I think they had calipers/pads also. The rotors are heavy duty slotted rotors. I don't have access to my TDR hard copies now because I'm on Active Duty but I'm sure somebody reading this does. They may even be in the Links section. If I remember, the write up on the rotors/brakes seemed to be complementary of their product.

 

[MCummings]

EGR is probably the company you are talking about Alan.



From my brief search on brakes for our Dodge trucks I didn't find any replacement Calipers. What I did find was drilled rotors and Carbon Kevlar pads.



Give Glenn Maurer a call at EGR (909) 898-1168



Pretty pennies but wayy worth it.



See this post for more info. .



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=343260#post343260



Here's a link to a pic of the rotors on the truck (Not the best pic, but get the idea)



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Merrick Cummings Jr

 

[tgbol]

My truck just turned 36,000 and I was starting to hear a squeak from the left front wheel. So I decided to check the brakes. Still had some pads left but it was time. I ordered Carbon-Metalic pads for both front. Finally changed them out this weekend and what a difference!! I have to use about half the pedal pressure to stop. When I was looking for the pads I found that NAPA and Kragen didn't even show the rear pads for the '01. 5 Rams. I also discovered that the rear pads on our trucks are the same as the front pads on the F*rd Expeditions.

the front pad numbers are 8214 or 0821. 20 and the rear are 7024 or 0702. 20 both numbers are on the boxes.

 

[Alan Reagan]

Thanks, MCummins. At least I was 2/3 right on the name and 2/3 right on the parts, too.

 

[MCummings]

Hey, 2/3 is 66%.



66% plus 66% is 132%.



That means you were 132% correct,, no worries. Glad I could help.



Merrick Cummings Jr

 

[craftybigdog]

Are the carbon-metallic alot better than the stock pads and where did you get them from? I cannot stand the stock pads, what are they made of? Why do you think dodge did such a bad job with there brakes?

 

[Alan Reagan]

It's funny how we owners feel about the brakes. One of the review magazines that tested the 2001 Ford, Chevy, and Ram Diesels rated the Ram the best in the brake department. Feel better?

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

My 8000# dually stops better than most cars. . What's the problem?



the trucks w/4wl discs are awesome. Better is just that, better, but is it worth the expense?

 

[Shooter]

Originally posted by craftybigdog

Are the carbon-metallic alot better than the stock pads and where did you get them from? I cannot stand the stock pads, what are they made of? Why do you think dodge did such a bad job with there brakes?

Auto Zone has the carbon metalic pads for about $50. The hotter they get the more agressive they get, they wont fade on the down side of a 8% in a panic stop.

Auto Zone PFC-Carbon-metalic part# 8214 @$44. 99

in store or online. for y2k front.



Dodge did not do a bad job on brakes, they just put soft linings on so they would not squeek or squeal, not warp rotors so no warranty issues.

 

[rkressg]

Brakes

I bought the NAPA brakes for the front about 6,000 mi ago. They cost me about $65, but I believe they list for around $100. They show absolutely no wear, but they do squeak. They have great stopping power and really resist fade. They were well worth the investment:-{}

 

[illflem]

Carbomet pads from TDR brake guru Sam Peterson -- email address removed -- are absolutely the best you can buy for a Ram. $43 gets you two sets of pads, 4 caliper pins and all the lube you need. They stop & wear great, don't squeak, make dust or ruin your rotors.

 

[HillCountrykid]

I bought the Perfermance Frictions from AutoZone Monday, and Tuesday the original pads went back on. My set squealed like crazy every time I stopped. Makes me feel like I'm driving a $35k jalopy. I'm buying Sam's pads sometime soon.



Brian

 

[craftybigdog]

I just bought a set of pads from autozone is the squeal that bad I havent put them on yet no I dont know if I will

 

[redram]

Originally posted by HillCountryKid

I bought the Perfermance Frictions from AutoZone Monday, and Tuesday the original pads went back on. My set squealed like crazy every time I stopped. Makes me feel like I'm driving a $35k jalopy. I'm buying Sam's pads sometime soon.



Brian

Huh, I've had the Performance Friction on my 96 Dually for 100,000+ (truck has 140K) Changed them out under warranty twice, once at 80K and when I replaced the front rotors at 115K. The work great and I've been accused of driving the dually like my road race car.



Mine don't squeal, wonder if the 4X4 with the removeable rotor is causing a vibration. (dually's have a integral cast rotor to the hub).



The aftermarket drilled rotors look neat.

The concern on the drilled rotors would be cracking. Drilled rotors look cool but with uneven heating (without proper ventillation and cooling) are more prone to cracking due to uneven heat dissipation. Yes, they work on race cars but how many race cars run the discs 100K without cahnging them?

 

[azgearpro]

does anyome know Sam Petersons phone number?

 

[Shooter]

You need to put anti squeal, It is a liquid rubber that is applied to the steel back of the pads, I prevents the vibration of the pads ( they all do it ) from being transmitted to the caliper. Back when they had real parts stores with real parts men behind the counter they would not let you out of the store without the anti squeal and synthetic brake lube grease for the pins. Some pads have the anti squeal factory applied, some don't. You can get the anti squeal and lube at auto zone, Checker... or pay more at napa.



Don't forget to break the glaze ( called re-surfacing when done mechanicaly ) on the rotors while the calipers are off. It does 2 things, one: it will allow the pads to wear on faster, two: it will reduce or eliminate potenial squeal. 120 grit sand paper or emery cloth works well. The sanding should be done perpendicular to rotation or so the finish is non directional.



A brake reline is more than just throwing in new pads. If you do it right. There are knukel busters and there are mechanics

 

[Alan Reagan]

Like RGilbert, I put a set of NAPA pads on my wife's Grand Cherokee. Squeaked like crazy. Took the calipers back off and applied the red compound to the mating surfaces and lubed the pins. Still squeaked. Didn't squeak before the NAPA pads.

 

[sam peterson]

Hi all---My phone number during the work week from 8. 30 to 5. 30 is 360/357-4958. Thats Pacific time---Thanks Sam