Calling out Brady at II about silver 62 facts.

[BILLVO]

I was just told by a person with one of each,sps62 and silver62 that they have the same number of turbine fins.



I am not bolting this thing on until I know what I got is truely a silver 62 unless I get pictoral evidence in the 2 now. If the turbine side is bigger in some way I want to really know how to tell the difference. I tried to call II today but closed on saturday I guess.



After handing over the money for a product that doesn't match the facts you gave doesn't leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling.



here is his a link to my question to him and his response.

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=194659



Unless the person who gave me the fin count was wrong then let me say I'm sorry now.



BUT Inquiring minds want to know



WHATS THE DIFFERENCE in sps62 and Silver62?



My Silver 62 in question has 14 compressor fins and 10 turbine fins.

 

[Reb.B]

I really wouldn't worry about it. Brady and the whole bunch at II are good guys, and if its not what you want then they'll take care of you. Although i think that it may be a good idea not to stick the turbo on until you are 100% sure that its the turbo you want. Shane at II is the head turbo guy and he's excellant at getting the facts and letting you know what's best for your application. Good luck and no need to worry!

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

As was stated above, the folks at II *will* treat you right!



Other than that, there CAN be other design/mod differences between turbos that LOOK the same, and yet cause one to outperform the other. I'm not at all familiar with the 2 you specify - but give Brady and the guys at II a chance before you start looking for lynching rope... :-laf

 

[Dakotahaulers]

Sorry but I have had bad service issues with II. I ran a 62 on my 12 valve and the bearings was shot after 4000 miles. My brother had purchased a HPV44 and we installed it with a new FASS 150 and the truck made it to town to clean the dust off of it and it never made it back home under its own power. Called II and they would not send another pump to me even with me giving them a shipping number. I had to ship the new pump back to them and wait 3 weeks of it to be back on the truck? And the only problem they said was wrong with it was a bad o-ring. Sounds like a three week tear down for a VP44? I also had a good friend that bought a bolt-on turbo for a 3rd gen that was not even close to a bolt on. But after we made the needed fittings we went for a test drive note without any NOS; just #2 and injectors with about a hour of warm up time. We made it just out of town to lay into it to see how it pulled and we split the shaft in half. Lucky we found the exhaust wheel in the tip. Called and II said there is no way we could have hurt that turbo. So we mailed it back to them and they said we used NOS and would not warrenty the turbo at all. So he had to eat the cost of the turbo and not say we looked for another vender. HTT has been with us ever since and has had great service.

 

[zstroken]

I had a customer with issues with a VP44, I put the customer directly in contact with II. II didn't think it was the pump, but agreed to bill him for another, send him a new one, and credit him back when they recieved the questionable one. I thought that was a fair deal. If the silver 62 is like a silver bullet, are the turbine fins radially shaped?? II is at SEMA, so I doubt if you get much of an anser until they get back.

 

[BILLVO]

WHOA WHOA WHOA here guys I'm not trying to start a mud slinging party here, and I never said II was bad I just have an issue with the facts given and what I have in hand, and was told to me by a second party do not match. I asked Brady to clarrify and he never responded so I'm trying to get the facts.



If nothing else everyone here can learn a bit about the Silver 62. on the group buy thread there are a lot of questions but no answers that I saw.



When I purchased it a couple weeks ago It was a TOP SECRET turbo Brady told me to keep it quiet and then a week and a half later its offered in a group buy.

 

[BILLVO]

Here are pics of the silver 62

last pic turbine I can see it has been machined inside.

second pic not sure how clear it is it is of the tag it says part# 62 super mod# 30 LG FL ser# 10. 06

first pic is of compressor wheel



Note the paper tag says super 62 sm/fl, turbo tag says lg fl,whats the difference here also?

 

[Forrest Nearing]

you can have the same number of fins, but have different pitch and or different major and or minor diameters... or the same exact turbine wheel for that matter that's been machined with different minor and or major diameters.

 

[MNewton]

Looks like standard 62mm S300 wheel on the comp side and a 71mm 10 blade on turbine side same setup that been around for 3-4 years. Do not know what the "silver" parts means probally some kind of porting to the housings? It also has a spacer on the gate which is good to let the gate open up farther before it hits the cover. Looks like a great turbo should spool good and keep EGT in check for your amount fuel.

 

[BILLVO]

you can have the same number of fins, but have different pitch and or different major and or minor diameters... or the same exact turbine wheel for that matter that's been machined with different minor and or major diameters.

This is how it all started Brady has told me more than once that it is supposed to have 2 more turbine fins than the sps62 but until I finally got a response from another party I have come to find out they have same # of fins if second party that supplied me with info was correct.



I realize that there are a lot of UNSEEN differences that are machined in the housings but when there is a very specific difference like this it concerns me.



I became suspicious when I unpacked it and found a difference in labeling and contacted Brady and he said I'm Pretty sure you got the right one. then I asked him more and got no more response after that.



In my book Pretty sure doesn't cut it What I want is a yes or no and what specifics to tell the diff and fin count according to what Brady told me should be a good indicator.



If anyone missed link to our pm he stated again it has a completely different wheel with 2 more fins and a more aggressive pitch. as well as more machine work inside.

 

[Tomeygun]

I always though it was just more porting and fancy wastegates, etc - I'll be looking forward to the answer...



Wheres my eating-popcorn smiley when i need it?!? :-laf

 

[lmills]

you mean this one :-laf

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[Forrest Nearing]

well, you may very well have gotten the wrong turbo... if you did, I'm sure they'll make it right. I know it's annoying as heck when stuff like that happens!!



this weekend is SEMA... EVERYONE is out there. I was hoping to get my injectors back from DDP on Saturday, but they're at SEMA

 

[JLibert]

my silver bullet said "silver bullet" on the paper tag and on the metal tag on the turbo. It also had a polished finish.

 

[RonA]

The first post is very aggressive and confrontational. There is poor customer service, and then there are poor customers. Try to work it out before starting a thread with angry faces and an attitude. It's really easy for a mistake to be made. Give them a chance.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

My new (ported) exhaust housing for the 66 said nothing it..... What the heck!



LOL, it works great, I dropped the boost that I wanted too! I'll hook up my drive pressure gauge again and give reading over the standard gate... ..... Thanks Shane, perfect timing on the shipment.



Jim

 

[Diesel Power]

Oo. ok i will speak for brady, he has been banned from tdr for a questionable reason. but the difference in the two turbos are very, not so much the fins, but the housing, how they port it, how many bearings , what kind of bearings, oil passages, all make a turbo great, i can tell you this if you compressor housing is polished then you have a silver 62, dont worry about the tag so much. brady and the rest of the crew strive very hard to make the best products, and offer the best in customer service. i know this first hand, as i do a lot of bussiness with them, heck i even saw how they make the turbo when i went to salt lake, if you have any more questions, call me or brady when he returns from sema.

let me know . thanks

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

The first post is very aggressive and confrontational. There is poor customer service, and then there are poor customers. Try to work it out before starting a thread with angry faces and an attitude. It's really easy for a mistake to be made. Give them a chance.

AMEN!



Human nature, even for businesses, makes it far less motivating to deal cheerfully with customers with a chip on their shoulder and a confrontational attitude...



There's a proper time to openly register public complaints - and THIS one wasn't even close...

 

[Tomeygun]

Oo. ok i will speak for brady, he has been banned from tdr for a questionable reason. but the difference in the two turbos are very, not so much the fins, but the housing, how they port it, how many bearings , what kind of bearings, oil passages, all make a turbo great, i can tell you this if you compressor housing is polished then you have a silver 62, dont worry about the tag so much. brady and the rest of the crew strive very hard to make the best products, and offer the best in customer service. i know this first hand, as i do a lot of bussiness with them, heck i even saw how they make the turbo when i went to salt lake, if you have any more questions, call me or brady when he returns from sema.

let me know . thanks

I think his pics show a non-polished compressor housing, So can he assume this turbo is NOT a silver62?

 

[Diesel Power]

I think his pics show a non-polished compressor housing, So can he assume this turbo is NOT a silver62?

if that pic in the middle is the compressor housing then you are correct, it's not a silver 62--it should be polished, brady will be in on monday or tuesday Oo.