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Transporting a vehicle from Oregon

I am looking at buying a camper of some kind but I am getting a lot of confusing words from the dealers about having to add a bunch of extra air bags to the springs to hold the weight. I do not want to buy anything that will weight more than 3000 pounds loaded and the 96 2500 I have I think is rated at a payload of 3500 pounds so I do not understand the need for airbags or any other additional suspension work the dealers are trying to sell me.

Any suggestions from you seasoned camper haulers, as to what equiptment I should get and what weight limit I should stay under. I do not want to overload or get stability problems.

Rollie
 
Do yourself a favor and weigh your truck - you can find scales at most truck stops. I'm pretty sure you'll find that your payload is WAY less than 3500 lbs. My 98 QC LB 4x4 with me sitting in it and full fuel weighs 7300 lbs - leaving only 1500 lbs for payload. It doesn't matter what's in a brochure or your owners manual (which are based upon a stripped truck with no options, no fuel in the tank, and noone behind the wheel) - but what your truck actually weighs.
 
Took the advice and had the truck weighed and it came out at 6200 with a full tank. I am looking at a camper that will weigh about 2800 pounds wet so that will take me up over the GVW by about 200 pounds. Anyone see a problem or should I get some additional airbags to hold this thing up?

Rollie
 
200 lbs over GVW is NOT much compared to what some of us are running comfortably out here...

most 3/4 ton trucks with a camper are WAY over the GVW rating.



I'd recommend a full set of Rancho 9000 shocks, a rear sway bar if you don't have one already, and air bags ONLY if you don't have the factory helper springs in the rear. This will keep the rig from swaying in crosswinds and leaning in curves.

Check my sig.

I've got over 25K miles at 10,800 GVW with my rig.
 
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Thanks for the info. . One question that was raised in the responses was about a helper spring. I am not sure if I have one or not. Any suggestions on how I can tell?

Thanks

Rollie
 
rlittle... Helpers will be about 3 shorter leaf springs seperated from your main springs by a spacer.



2000 pounds of hay is not enough weight to set my truck on the helpers, but it is close because they will thump if I hit a bump.
 
Rollie.

I know all the questions you have, and the confusing answers you are getting. I see it all most every day with customers. I sell campers and have had trucks with campers over the years. If you have an extended cab it is going to haul 3000 lbs a whole lot better than a regular cab truck. This is because the longer wheel base allows more of the camper weight to be distributed to the front axles. By transfering the weight off the rear of the truck you are also taking some weight off the tires. I saw this 1st hand a few years ago when I sold a Lance I had owned for a few years. Originally it was installed on my 97 F350 regular cab longbed. The camper severely put the back of the truck down. By putting airbags on that truck, that brought the back up level but still left all that weight right over the rear axle bulging the rear tires (load range E's) badly. The truck went away and that's when I got into Dodges. Anyway, when I sold that camper I sold it to a person who had a crew cab (longer wheel base) F350 with the same "GVW" rating as what my Ford was. When we set that same 10' camper in the back of that crew cab his truck sat level. I saw 1st hand what a diference that ;longer wheel base did.



The thing that adds to confusion is that a regular cab (on paper) is rated to carry more weight than an extended cab or crew cab. That is because of the added seat belts. Sure that extra weight of the frame and body will deduct from the gross payload but the government mandated another 150 per seatbelt be deducted from the gross payload as well. I tell people if they are not filling those seatbelts, put that weight back into what they want to carry. Another thing to consider is the manufacturer. Dodge suspensions, 3/4 and 1 ton trucks have the best springs to handle the weight of a camper. They handle the weight better than Ford or Chevy. That opinion comes from seeing the same campers on a daily basis in the different trucks. Hope this helps you I could go on and on. One thing I strongly suggest is the Rancho 9000's. If you have an extended cab truck with the camper package; sway bar and overload spring you won't have any problems with 3000 lbs or under. Be sure of the exact weight of the camper you are going to buy. Manufacturers usually list wet weights on campers that only include the standard equipment for that particular model. One thing I strongly reccommend is the Rancho 9000's. They will make a BIG

difference in the way your truck handles the weight. WyoJim wrote of this.

Good Luck.
 
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Thanks for th the information from Crazy House and the other member who responded.

My truck it an extened cab 96 and with the information provided I now know that the truck has the helper springs. Still got the stock shocks but that can change pretty fast.

The camper I am looking at has a wet weight of about 2500 pounds so I think that it will work on my truck with out the airbags that the salesman keeps telling me I need.

Thanks for the help

Rollie
 
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