"Can you please give us a list of the CG's where this happens so I don't mistakingly end up there?'
Typically, at least in our case, it's the semi-wilderness type CG's, where there are pit toilets, probably no running water - and NO forestry personel presence - maybe no CG host. CG rules are usually clearly posted at the entrance - and pretty common knowledge even in unposted CG's
In these more isolated dry camps, with little or no authoritative supervision, offenders are pretty free to go as far as their common decency and conscience permits - and some just don't have much of either one!
And yeah, campers represent a pretty common cross-section of what you are likely to experience in any common residential area - some are courteous and reserved, appreciating quiet and calm, while others in the neighborhood are partiers, loud and rowdy.
And, those of a loud and rowdy lifestyle probably don't even NOTICE the similar loudness of others in the CG - and might not even CARE, since that is THEIR lifestyle as well!
In a CG setting, as opposed to a residential, with close spacing and no walls of separation, the 2 types of campers are like oil and water - they don't mix well. But the difference is, somewhat different rules apply in the 2 settings, and the ones applying to CG behavior are usually clearly posted at the entrance.
It's just a pity that a few abusers figure THEY are "above the rules", and tend to spoil the outings for their more responsible neighbors...
And IS it "unreasonable" or over-reacting to comment on this issue? Many folks spend SERIOUS $$$ in outfitting for the "RVing experience" - fully aware of CG rules, and willing to do whatever conforming required to ENJOY that experience, while assuring their CG neighbors will as well.
Look, LIFE is made up of, and governed by rules and laws - hell, even ANIMALS have their own basic rules that they live by. We have rules that apply to driving, games, and virtually EVERY aspect of or lives - rules designed to level the playing field for all - for the maximum safety, or perhaps enjoyment of all participants. Even our participation here on the TDR is governed by RULES we are expected to accept and abide by, if we are to be allowed to "play"!
When some drivers decide the law about drinking and driving is not one THEY will abide by - well, MANY of us have had to live close to the tragic outcome of THAT decision! The same holds true for speed limits, stop signs, etc.
We've all at one time or another played games with someone in the circle who cheated - wouldn't play the game according to the rules - and that game was ruined for the other players. I fully realize the expected behavior in a Church - I don't go there to smoke, chew, or tell loud dirty jokes, I *accept and obey* the rules of expected behavior in that place - *I* am better for that expectation, as are the others sharing that experience.
And it takes some pretty self-centered non-conformists to casually or deliberately IGNORE known rules of the CG behavior and common decency, just because they are unwilling or unable to control themselves, their family or their pets - and thumb their noses at their CG neighbors in the process.
YUP - it's a sign of our times, increasingly common, and not likely to get any better... So what's my point and goal with this thread? To increase AWARENESS and SENSITIVITY to the issue, maybe create a small bit of self inspection among readers to see what THEIR behavior and attitudes are - and to at least in some way present my viewpoint, as well as that of those like me.