Can anyone Identify this trailer make

[abdiver]

Hope I am able to post these pictures. I was told that it might be a Butler Trailer but Butler parts person said she didn't think it was as Butlers had a small beaver tail Tire size is 825 x 15TR I would guess it is 8. 25 ?



I have more pictures which I can post if these make it through.

 

[abdiver]

More pic's of trailer, Hope someone can tell me what size and or make it is I did not find any numbers on the tongue area

 

[jakprince]

Maybe it was home made?

 

[icman95]

If you can't find the metal plaque with a VIN near the tongue or on a side rail near it, then I might tend to go the home made idea too. It strikes me as odd that there is no fender over the wheels on either side. I was under the impression that this was required to control road spray. This would lead me to the home grown thinking because any national manufacturer would most likely put them on from the get go. One thing, though-the metal work and welding is very complex and intricate for a home grown one. Great job if built in someone's garage or barn!

 

[seafish]

Don't know who made the trailer, but the ripper bar chained to it definitely looks it came from a JD350 crawler/dozer or crawler/loader. Great machines!!

 

[NIsaacs]

I would guess it is an older Econoline tiltbed trailer. The color, style and small low profile tires are an indicator. My guess is the fenders have fallen or were taken off.





"NICK"

 

[abdiver]

I agree it just looks Factory perhaps with Modifications

If you can't find the metal plaque with a VIN near the tongue or on a side rail near it, then I might tend to go the home made idea too. It strikes me as odd that there is no fender over the wheels on either side. I was under the impression that this was required to control road spray. This would lead me to the home grown thinking because any national manufacturer would most likely put them on from the get go. One thing, though-the metal work and welding is very complex and intricate for a home grown one. Great job if built in someone's garage or barn!

Yes, I thought the absent of stock fenders a bit weird but perhaps larger tires were installed or as already suggested the original fenders fell off.



Owner says rippers are for a 350 or 450 JD

 

[DennyDay]

Kinda' looks like a Tag-A-Long (brand) say most of them on the east coast (NJ-NY-PA) tilt bed. used gravity to tilt both up and down. Suspect from the late sixties, early seventies



DEnny

 

[abdiver]

Kinda' looks like a Tag-A-Long (brand) say most of them on the east coast (NJ-NY-PA) tilt bed. used gravity to tilt both up and down. Suspect from the late sixties, early seventies



DEnny

The trailer has a hydraulic cylinder (to cushion the lowering of the trailer when loading) I don't know if it works, but it is under there. Hope some one reconizes it as I would like to make sure I can get parts and a Rim for it.

 

[DennyDay]

The cushon cylinder is the same as the Tag-A-Long, but I don't think the 15' split rims are going to useable. The 5 large lugnuts are no longer made - went to 8 lug. Suggest changing out the hubs and wheels to a little more current model - - - the more I think about it, the trailer configuration may be military surplus - - you might look on the surplus auction sites for a parts trailer.



Denny

 

[MMeier]

ab, how wide is it from outside of tire to outside of tire?

 

[Philip]

I have seen a couple of trailers like that. But I have never seen any names on them.



Look under the trailer and see if it has some large stack pockets built into the frame.



The ones I have seen never had decks on them. They were open frame and were used for hauling telephone poles. Some were duals. Some had split duals with one on each side of the main frame.



I have also seen one that was setup as a wire laying trailer.

 

[abdiver]

Denny, Please explain about why "the 15' split rims are going to useable" as I am ignorant about this. Yes, Now that you mention it, it may be Military.



Bill

 

[abdiver]

ab, how wide is it from outside of tire to outside of tire?

103 inches outside side wall to outside side wall I think it is legal up to something like 108" if I recall it correctly?



Please advise



Thanks Bill

 

[DennyDay]

abdiver - - Split rims have just about gone out of existance for safety reasons, those over size tires and brakes make me think Govt, spec. You didn't say what brakes they had, but OEM was probably air brakes.



Denny

 

[DennyDay]

Looked at the pix again, and they may have been air over hydraulic.



Denny

 

[abdiver]

Denny, The brakes are electric and the plug is a small diameter aprox 1 inch as I recall it had 5 holes (contact points).

I called Schwab tire asked asst Manager about split rims he said they were OK

I have been out of the excavating business for almost 18 years so I am not current with split rim info, YOU mean Big trucks don't use split rims any more???

 

[steved]

No, big trucks have been using single piece rims for several years now...

Split rims are serviceable, nothing wrong with them other than you got to find a shop with a safety cage to work them... lots of older trucks on the road still using them.

And yes, that could be military... first thing i thought when I saw the "5 on huge" bolt pattern. Although, many of them used a 6-bolt wheel on the larger equipment... the large five bolt was 3/4 ton and under typically. That pattern is sometimes reserved for HD equipment too... graders, stuff like that.

steved

 

[WBlackburn]

Looks like an ole TRAIL KING we had on the ranch. Tough as hell, looked terrible.

 

[DennyDay]

abdiver - - What I meant was you may not want the hassel of a split rim - - as someone already pointed out your tire guy has to have a cage - - been a number of fatalities involving lock rings, OSHA has a requirement for cages, and the insurance industry doesn't look kindly on splits - - on big trucks today splits are the exception rather than the norm. Most today use 22. 5 or 19. 5 tubeless tires. The split requires a tube type tire. If you find a tubless tire and put a tube in it, be sure to apply talcum powder between the tires carcus and the tube to prevent chaffing the tube.

The 5 pin connector is a standard for commercial use - - prior to the seven pin in use today - - but 5 wire is still available at any parts house.



Don't know what else I can tell you that would help, but I do remember the first time I loaded a standard transmission D4 on a trailer like that, it was hearbeat city for a few minutes trying to get it to break over and nor slam the dump truck into the ground.



Denny