2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Can kerosene be used in the CTD

[rchall]

I was in a remote location and was running low on fuel and the nearest station was 20mins back up the road that sold diesel,

but there was a station close by the sold gas and kerosene .



so my question is can kerosene be used in the Ram CDT or will it blow the engine ??



thank you guy for the help !!



Ricky C Hall

 

[vssman]

No it won't hurt the truck as long as you don't make a habbit of it. If you have to use #1, then add #2 as soon as possible after so that you retain some lubricating properties for the pump.

 

[Cummins4Life]

I think the 12valve with the P7100 injection pump can run on kerosene, but I would not run it in a 24valve with the VP44 because it may not have enough lubricity?

 

[illflem]

vssman's, advice is right. Be careful with kerosene in an emergency, much of what is available now days as camp fuel is tinted, scented or some other such thing. I've also heard that Coleman fuel or white gas contains additives that kerosene doesn't and may harm your engine.

 

[JohnE]

I thought white gas was naptha.



I cannot find my B Cummins manual, but I thought #1 and kersosene are OK fuels.



Found my ISC manual and here's the acceptable fuels:

#2, #1, Kerosene (#1), Jet-A, Jet-A1, JP-5, JP-8

NOt acceptable fuels

Jet-B, JP-4, CITE

 

[Chipstien]

Can straight #1 be ran with a DFA without ill effects? Thinking of running heating oil. @*#$ these gas prices.

 

[RKohn]

Only real downside is less power and hence lower MPG.

 

[pcarlson]

John is right for the alternative fuels Kerosene, Jet-A, Jet-A1, JP-5, JP-8. To run any of these fuels a lubricant has to be added to the fuel. #1 and #2 Diesel is ok without but the others will tear up your VP due to the lack of lube.

 

[illflem]

Some of the guys in Alaska don't have a choice, all they can get is straight #1(Kerosene) in the winter. They just add a lubricity additive and get upwards of five mpgs less.



John, you may be right that white gas is naptha. I know you can use white gas and kerosene in the same appliances but I sure wouldn't want to run naptha in my truck.



This might be the answer http://web.outsideonline.com/outsidestore/gearguy/0599/051499.html

 

[David Oxland]

In Victoria B. C. Canada the transit system ran Kerosene in all the GM busses about 20 years ago because people were complaining so much about them smoking. It was fairly recognizable when they went by.

 

[swampfox]

From the Cummins "Operations and Maintenance Manual for B3. 9 and B5. 9 Series Engines":

"Acceptable Fuels for Bosh A pump, Bosh P pump and Bosh VE pump; No 1, No 2 diesel, No. 1-K kerosene, No. 2-K kerosene, Jet A, Jet A-1, JP-5 & JP-8. . Do not use Jet-B, JP-4 or Cite.

The VE pump requires 5% new lubricating oil with all acceptable fuels other than diesel 1 & 2. No mention is made of requiring lubricating oil with the "A" or "P" pumps.



Finally, reference is made to Cummins Bulletin No. 3379001 for additional information on fuel for Cummins engines

 

[rchall]

Thank You for the Help

Thank You Guy for all the great help in the matter

from your friend

 

[JohnE]

I'm in the transit bus business (OEM).



Many transit authorities run #1 year around. Some because that is the only fuel they can get on a regular basis. Others because of the reason David Oxland mentions. It was a way to clean up the old 2 stroke diesels.



In this age of turbo-charged diesels running #1 is almost a moot point. If a TA specs #1 fuels the ECMs are programmed for #1 fuel usage which means they deliver more fuel to gain back the lost hp. An ISC is rated 280 hp be it #2 or #1 fuel.



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edit;White gas is usually naptha. It works great in multifuel appliances such as camp stoves. It is the usual solvent ingredient in fuel additives, too.

 

[C. Harlan]

That's awesome.... I can get all the JET-A I need

Mom works for an air ambulance company, and they have barrels upon barrels of it... Guess I know where I am going to be getting fuel now!! This ought to save on some spending.



-Chris-

 

[stevek]

I've burned Jet-A w/ prist in a couple of tractors and it seems to gum up the injectors. We notice the same thing at work when we put Jet into the trucks...