Can the EZ do what is says it can?

[JKloppe]

They say it can change the timing of the injection pump.
Can it change the timing through just the data-link connection? What about the ECM, it cant alterd by just plugging an EZ into the data-port?

"The re-mapping of the timing and fueling parameters is done via the CAN-BUS communication system"

I need some Clarification as to how and what the EZ can really do.

 

[Bad340fish]

Not sure how it does it really. But YES it does work, I have had mine for about two weeks and love it. Mileage went up also. I would go for it


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Clark
1999 2500 QC SB 5spd, EZ, Flowmaster 3 chamber, K&N Re-0880
1968 Barracuda Formula S Viper Blue 11. 98@112 Currently scattered all over the garage

 

[TXRam]

The VP44 injection pump has it own "pump control unit" (PCU) which is what really controls the pump - timing, pressure, etc. The EZ talks with that computer much the same as the ECM talks with it.

Yes, the EZ can, and does, do everything Edge says it can.

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1999 2500 QC 4X4 LB Auto (DTT Upgraded), 4. 10LS, 275HP Injectors, PowerEdge, PowerEdge EZ, SPA Boost and EGT, K&N Air Filter, Magnaflow straight-thru muffler
NRA Member

[This message has been edited by TXRam (edited 05-04-2001). ]

 

[Okie-Go]

Yes it can. Read my post in the accessories dept. I gained 20% in my truck doing some tests. Read signature for equipment.

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2001 quadcab slt 2500 HO 6spd. LWB,2wd,dk garnett red, trailer tow package,camper special, lock-right locker, 3. 54 gears,ez edge, speed liner,oversized stainless steel chicken slide,66 gallon in bed aux. tank,K&N air filter,Reese 20k hitch, Terry 2000 EX 30ft. double slide 5er, 2000 20ft gooseneck for haulin jeep, firewood and huntin stuff. 5X12 tagalong for haulin the 4 wheeler. Okie Newton

 

[John Berger]

Yes it can and yes it does. #ad


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1999 Dodge Ram 3500 Quad Cab 2wd; 5 spd; 4:10 LSD rear; Mag-Hytec differential cover; US Gear EGT and Boost gauges. Stewart Warner Fuel Pressure Gauge with dual senders, Westach Oil Temp Gauge for differential. Amsoil foam air filter and synthetics in the motor and differential. Cummins Power, don't leave home without it

 

[K_Arts]

Has anybody put some type of monitoring device on their ECM or VP-44 to verify if the EZ is doing what it is advertised to do?Just out of curiousity?

Kev

 

[24V-DSL]

I am still in a state of almost disbelief that you can hook this little EZ box up in less than five minutes and end up with 50 something rear wheel horsepower for less than $600.

I spent several thousand on my 97 Dakota gasser bolting on every aftermarket performance part known, including Crower 1. 7 roller rockers, which was the only "internal" mod. Exhaust, ignition, air-intake, ported/polished throttle body,Mopar perfomance computer, matched injectors, yadda, yadda. Guess what? I maybe got 40-50 rwhp.

What we can do to this cummins with injectors, boxes, etc. is amazing, especially for $$ invested. And, my cummins is a he## of a lot more fun to drive. It weighs over a ton more than the Dakota, but feels quicker. The Dakota is for sale... #ad


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White 2001. 5 2500 ST, SWB, 4X4,QC, AUTO, 4. 10's, LSD, 285/75/16 On Weld Outbacks, PIAA 510's, Line-x, Tinted glass, Redline 85+, Blow-by-bye, RE-0880 & 25-0880,muffler fell off,level truck with 2" tuff country kit, Bilsteins at the corners, Di Pricol egt and boost, Mag-hytec "original flavor" transmission pan and Dana 70 diff. cover, Westin Step Bars, Custom Plate 24V-DSL

 

[K_Arts]

Originally posted by 24V-DSL:
I am still in a state of almost disbelief that you can hook this little EZ box up in less than five minutes and end up with 50 something rear wheel horsepower for less than $600.

I can say this... BIG A just his truck tested for E-missions and the EZ only added about 36 HP. He is stock with and Auto transmission and the EZ and the dyno said 206. Soooo where's the other 30 HP? Still in the Drivetrain??

Kev

 

[TXRam]

3 additional points -

1) If the timing wasn't advanced, why would EGT be lower with more power (and I bet my truck on it that it is)??? Can't do that just by adding fuel.

2) No mild fueling/timing box adds its max HP at the peak HP of the truck. They add the most HP at lower rpms - like around 1800. 36HP at peak is probably about right, at ~1800, it'll be at least 10-15HP higher.

3) Auto transmission??? Was it dynoed in lock-up? And with an OEM Torque Converter? Probably losing more like 30-40% of the power being produced if this is the case. Unless you dyno an auto in 3rd with the TC locked (i. e. , lock-up switch), you're missing power, especially with the OEM or milled converters.



[This message has been edited by TXRam (edited 05-04-2001). ]

 

[JKloppe]

I have an EZ and know it works, but so does the VA without timing.

Along with KArts how does anybody know if the timing is really changed. You cant tell and thats my point.

I dont think the timing can be changed via data port!



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·1999 2500 QC LB Auto 3. 55 4x4
·Armorthane Bed liner, A-pillar gauges, RE-0880, EZ, 275's, Husky mats, strait pipe

 

[DMarriott]

The VA CPC changes timing of the injector pump.

 

[DMarriott]

The VA CPC changes timing of the injector pump. You can follow this link. http://www.vanaaken.com/24vcummins/index_ram.htm

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by JKloppe:
I have an EZ and know it works, but so does the VA without timing.

Along with KArts how does anybody know if the timing is really changed. You cant tell and thats my point.

I dont think the timing can be changed via data port!

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The VA and EZ both change timing, that the "advantage" of them. Don't you notice a slighlty different idle? And as it was stated above, if you merely add fuel then EGT's can only go up... ... . you add fuel and change the timing on the injector pump you have the same as before or lower EGTs with added fuel. The heart of all diesels are the injection pump it all "Starts" there. On the VP44 you change it "electronically", on a P7100 you "mechanically" change it. The ECM can be change IF you have the "codes" or the software to get into it. <font size=-2>

[This message has been edited by KatDiesel (Eric Howard) (edited 05-04-2001). ]

 

[SmokinJoe]

Originally posted by JKloppe:
I have an EZ and know it works, but so does the VA without timing.

Does the TST products also modify the timing? What happens when you cross the 10,000 mile mark and your factory computer tries to advance the timing another 2 degrees?



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2001. 5 QC 2500 White Sport 4x4 LWB ETC 5-Speed Anti-Spin 3. 54 Trailer Tow 241HD SLT+ Tan Leather(Mad Cow Disease) LT265/75R16E ARE Z Series Cap Bedrug ICI Nerfbars

 

[Bent6]

Originally posted by John Berger:
There is a very noticeable difference after install, but if you want to get the full effect of what it does, take it off after you have driven with it on. The difference, especially at lower RPM is amazing. [/B]

I'll have to second that with an AMEN! I unhooked mine after having it on about a week - needless to say, I pulled over about 2 minutes later and hooked it back up - it was like a slug on the low-end without the EZ!

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Will - -- email address removed -- - 98. 5 3500, black, 24v, auto, 4. 10, fold-away gooseneck hitch, Poweredge EZ w/ boost elbow, K&N Filter, Isspro 50# Boost, EGT (pre-turbo), transmission Temp gauges mounted on A-pillar, & more to come!
38ft United Expressline X-Treme Race Car Hauler weighing in @ 12000# loaded
Other Bad Habit:
'87 Pro-Street Buick Grand National, 272cid Stage II Buick V-6, SINGLE turbo, 1400hp, 1200ft/lbs @ 24# boost
Best 60ft: 1. 11
Best 1/8 mile: 4. 99 @ 142mph
Best 1/4 mile: 7. 70 @ 179mph
And Lookin' For More!!!
So I'm A Turbo Man!
Boost On!

 

[Fred Swanson]

Any time you have a computer controlled device, it can be modified, with add on boxes, or reprogrammed chips. You're talking about advancing the timing of when the injection pump feeds the cylinders, and how much fuel it gives it at certain RPM's, or boost levels. That's how these boxes work. They are in fact remapping the timing of the fueling and how much additional fuel, to gain power.
Are they delivering as promised? You bet. And it will be different on each truck. We've seen that these motors put out varying power levels from stock, and the box adds to each accordingly. Plus, different drivetrains soak up different levels of power. Actual power increases may not be 100%, but I'll bet they are close.
Good example, I run DD2's and the EZ. I've run both individually, and feel the EZ makes more power at lower RPMs' than the injectors alone. They are rated at about the same HP, but not the same level of torque. The EZ is rated at more torque. That's because there is not fuel timing advance with injectors, but there is with the EZ. Now with the same scenario, the boost levels do not increase as fast with just the injectors. And after driving with just the DD2's, I thought the power was flat. Of course I had already adjusted to driving with the EZ and the DD2's. They perform as advertised.
I personally like the EZ with any upgraded injector, too a limit, of course. They work fantastic together, and I'll recommend it to anyone who asks my opinion or purchases anything from me.

As for the EZ, when was the last time you heard anyone actually pay $600 for one, they are much cheaper, just call and ask.



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Fred Swanson
Co-Owner
Canyon State Components, LLC
www.canyonstatecomponents.com


'00 QC,SB,4x4,Auto,3. 54 w/LSD,Trailer Package,Tow Package,DTT's
TC(91%)&VB(80psi),DD2's,EZ,HOT PE,K&N RE-0880,Cummins RED Valve Cover

 

[John Berger]

That would be a good idea. There is a very noticeable difference after install, but if you want to get the full effect of what it does, take it off after you have driven with it on. The difference, especially at lower RPM is amazing.

 

[Cobra]

Okie=Go
I am new at this computor stuff. I would like to read your post on the EZ but I can't find out how to get to the department you had referred to. How do I get there?

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Bill Kute

 

[WyoJim]

Try this Bill
https://www.turbodieselregister.com/ubb//Forum3/HTML/003540.html

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98. 5 24 valve auto, QC, LB, EZ, DTT vb 9 1/2ft 3500# slide in S&S Camper

 

[groundpounder]

This is like toothpaste 9 out of 10 recomend this unit for the trucks with low power!!