Can this be bombed?

[SEmerson]

Can this be bombed? Polaris Diesel 455

 

[SRadke]

Does that have a real transmission or one of those wannabe rubberband drives?



-Scott

 

[HoleshotHolset]

From: http://www.off-road.com/atv/pol2000/diesel.html



"The DIESEL uses the fully automatic PVT (Polaris Variable Transmission) with the Polaris Engine Braking System. The PVT requires no shifting, so the rider is always in the right gear, whether towing loads, hauling cargo, or maneuvering across a feedlot or job site. The transmission is dual- sensing, so it responds to both engine RPM and vehicle torque load for cooler operation and superior backshifting in all conditions. EBS is beneficial when riding on hilly terrain and in mountainous areas. It utilizes engine compression to improve braking efficiency. "



Matt

 

[SRadke]

I know thay have a transmission with a clutch and real gears why wouldn't they put it in a diesel machine? The belt drive is OK for racing and such but with a trailer, forget it.



-Scott

 

[mcoleman]

The belt drives were designed for trailers and other utility uses. That's one reason all of the big bore quads now use auto trannies. They have a low range for heavy loads and I never slipped my belt even when competing in atv pulls and I was always in the right gear. I'm betting you could add more fuel if you opened up the exhaust and installed a k&N air filter with a few holes in the air box. I'm not sure what those use to inject fuel with though. Your Kawasaki Mules,Polaris Rangers, and Yamaha Rhino's also use the same belt drive setup.

 

[edmeyers]

while on the subject

any idea if this can be bombed

and yes it has a rubberband

 

[Dieselnut59]

Polaris Diesel

I have a 1999 Polaris Diesel and LOVE it! I would also LOVE to BOMB it (some more)

It does have the "belt drive" (PVT) but that is actually a great design. I figured I would hate it since I have always preferred manual transmissions, but I actually love this ATV. If I had my choice, I would rather have a 5-speed manual in some situations, but the PVT/Diesel combination is a pulling monster. The "clutch" part of the belt drive is matched to the low RPM/high torque characteristics of the diesel engine. It is slow on top end, but is a hill climbing, trailer pulling, tree skidding monster.

I have added the K&N filter and turned up the RPM's on mine. This thing will run FOREVER on a tank of fuel. It also has a larger charging system (two batterise, similar to our Dodge setup) which is great for running the winch and larger haedlights.

I pull often with mine and have only had to put one PVT belt on it, which is not a tough or expensive job. I actually like the design of the PVT belt drive system because it seperates the transmission oil from the engine oil and also isolates the engine vibration better from the frame. I LOVE this ATV and wish they would offer the diesel engine in the Ranger model. It would be a great competition for the John Deere Gator and Kawasaki Mule. The diesel Polaris engine is made by Fuji Heavy Industries, the same manufacturer as the Polaris gasoline engines in the 400-500 Sportsman ATV's. It was originally built as a diesel in Japan for years, and due to our country's (unfortunate) demand for gasoline over diesel, was converted to a gasoline engine for export (US) use.

Bottom line: I would LOVE to BOMB this sucker, but, like my Dodge Diesel, I like it cause it is a diesel anyway. The "cool factor" is definately high with a Polaris Diesel.

 

[Big_Daddy_T]

I had the 700 sportsman with the pvt. It would do about 70 mph. Climb anything. Smoothest riding bike Id ever been on. I at first was very wary of a belt drive. Ive owned many high performance snow machines and understand that they work well if designed right. I was worried about getting it wet. I had absolutely no problems and in the end decided it was a major advantage. It even had a small drain plug built into the belt cover to drain any water without removing the cover thus negating the factory seal. I bought it with my dad in mind and he is collecting social security so I wanted something easy to use for a novice. I drove the bike through 3 and a half feet of water more than once with absolutely 0 issues. I even halfway dumped it on its side while doing a water crossing. Got a shmig of water in it and it dried out within 100ft. It has a breather tube and I submerged it. Its near the fuel tank lid so just dont go deeper than the top of the tank. Air is a problem at that depth so its very unwise anyways.

 

[SRadke]

I've been involved with a John Deere Gator and a Kawi Mule that both had the belts burned out of them. I'll admit neither were diesel but that shouldn't make much diffrence. Perhaps Polaris has a better design? I've raced Scrambler 500 on the sand dunes and I feel the belt really cost them some power potential. A 500cc two stroke should run way better than they do.



-Scott

 

[Chipstien]

Met a guy on the trails once that had one of these. The range is unbelievable and they can crawl up anything. However, note the word "crawl"... ..... top speed of 35. Polaris even "showed off" with it by pulling a loaded 18 wheeler across the parking lot. Pretty impressive though kinda slow.

 

[mcoleman]

First off the 500 Scrambler is a 4 stroke engine and when modded correctly will run decent. The 400 Scrambler is the 2 stroke and can be modded to be extremely fast. As in well over 50 hp. The new G-Force 700 is also a belt driven dune machine and will haul a$%. If you have a machine that is consistently frying belts it has a clutching issue or weak springs in the assembly or an alignment problem.

 

[evldsl]

Only in Bagdad .

 

[SRadke]

I'm sorry mcoleman, it must have been a 400 Scrambler. It was definitely 2 stroke. What happened to the good old days of actually putting the engine size on the side of the machine? Either way I out ran him on my wee little 250.



-Scott

 

[SEmerson]

I would love to get one of these but only if it can be hoped up. I run at glamus and need speed.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Originally posted by edmeyers

any idea if this can be bombed

and yes it has a rubberband

Yes it can trust Me it can. (Ask snow man about mine doin a burnout while on the phone Yeeehaw) Granted ours is a gasser and 4x2 but a gator nevertheless.

 

[C. Harlan]

the one way to BOMB a gator is take the screw out from underneath the gas pedal... more fuel right there! the 4x2's are kind of slow, but fun to drive!! we use them at the Stock show here in San Antonio, and always get in trouble for giving the good looking girlies a ride to where they need to go, and making the not-so-gifted in the looks department hoof it!



-Chris-

 

[mcoleman]

I had a wee little Honda 250 myself with a 310 kit in it. I thought it was quick till a friend of mine purchased a Banshee from out of state that had the drag pipes hanging outside the body of the quad, extended swingarm, etc... It was a drag only race machine but it was a blast to run on the 300 foot tracks. I hear they have turbo kits out for the Kawasaki 700s. Wonder if one could be adapted to the diesel Polaris for a little more grunt. LOL