Canadian writes about Britains Gun control

[Sled Puller]

Even the Canadians can see what's goin on! Read this, gives ya more ammo for the Socialists. http://www.spectator.org/archives/0006TAS/steyn0006.htm

 

[danandamy]

Very enlightening article, Gene. I sure wish the dummies in this nation would wake up before it's too late!

Daniel
I don't dial "911" #ad

 

[JConley]

Here in Texas it is a defence against prosecution if you kill someone for "theft in the night time" Thats right... if I see someone stealing something of mine at night, I can open fire and end his career legally and permanently.

I like Texas...

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Go Aggies!!!

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

WOW Gene! Scary stuff! Myself I awoke this morning to a news report on the radio that Governor Engler (MI governor) was likely to sign into law a right to concealed carry law that has been passed up to him by our legislatures!!!!!! WOOHOOOOO I've been writing letters to my legislatures and taking part in demonstrations for the 10 years that I've lived here in Michigan. It's finally about to pay off! As soon as it's signed into law you can bet that I'll be applying for my concealed carry permit! Things are a changin'

-Steve St. Laurent

 

[mikel]

Hey guys I know it's not exactly on the same topic, but it's still about big brother watching what we do in our homes, take a look... #ad

http://www.theregister.co. uk/content/2/15620.html

Mike

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Howdy Agg's!

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[Ramboy00]

The good people of remote Norfolk should get together and agree that every time they shoot and kill a thief, they take him out and bury him. No evidence, no crime. #ad


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[rich m]

Originally posted by Ramboy:
The good people of remote Norfolk should get together and agree that every time they shoot and kill a thief, they take him out and bury him. No evidence, no crime. #ad

Wouldn't it be a news-grabber if suddenly, for no "apparent" reason, thousands of Americans began shipping gift shovels to random addresses all over England, for the purpose of making criminals useful (gardening mulch!) and reducing legal costs in their judicial system!

 

[Lil' Dog]

I'm livin in it. Now they want all the guns registered AGAIN, like you didn't when you bought them. Now even the youngster shooting the gopher is taboo. How do I explain to my kids how it was to hunt gophers without 3 licenses. The fun is lost IMHO to try to stop the thousands of illegal fire arms coming into the country. Now guns that were worthless are big bucks cause they're illegal.
The only people stopped from getting guns is the amatuer shooter and the hunters, free for all in the black market #ad
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I am embarrased to talk about this topic.

Disarmed in Alberta.

 

[danandamy]

If I were forced to live somewhere like that, I would forget buying a "legal" gun and go get an illegal one. Then if I had to defend my family, I'd shoot the sucker, dump the body and simply not tell anyone anything.

 

[rich m]

anybody need a shovel?

 

[rich m]

"fear the government that fears your gun"

(quoted from a bumpersticker)
here's another, which i've had on 2 of my trucks:

has a "hammer&sickle" at one end, a swastika on the other, and between them it says "politicians love gun control"

 

[BV]

Here is an email that a friend sent me.
Gun Control In The Outback - Check this out!

FROM AUSTRALIA---Gun Control In The Outback

Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law
to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government,
a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 3. 2 percent,.
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8. 6 percent;.
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!)
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.
(Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and
criminals still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed
robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months,
since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also
been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian
politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such
monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian
society of guns. "

You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your governor or
members of the state Assembly disseminating this information. The Australian
experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property
and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note Americans, before it's too late!

PLEASE FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST!

John R. Lott Jr. is a senior research scholar at the Yale University Law
School. The second edition of his book, "More Guns, Less Crime," was
published by University of Chicago Press in July. These figures are
supported in that book.

 

[Ameradian]

I must tell you folks this is a load of rubbish. I have lived in the Great White North three times (great country IMHO) and the UK twice (I did my PhD at their third best school after Cambridge and Oxford, viz. the University of Edinburgh)and they are MUCH safer places. I never felt fear and from watching the news reports you learn quite rapidly that they have much less violent crime. It is very rare to hear of a murder in the UK, yet when when compard to California, for example, which has less than half of the UK population (66. 5 million vs. 34. 5 million), one hears of killings (plural people, and I do mean plural) every single day. Canada is in some respects even safer. I do agree with his observation that most crimes in these countries do take place in areas where the people are cash strapped or in drug havens. Still, although I'm not sure about the figures concerning property crimes and the like I do dispute his so-called facts on the rest of his crime numbers. It takes all of about two weeks living in Canada or Britain to realize that they suffer much less violent crime (including murder) than we do. This person is simply so pro-gun that they have lost their objectivity and are just ****** off that he has to register his gun. Just had to defend the reputation of my two adopted countries.
Cheers
Bill

 

[Sled Puller]

HELLLOOOO!!!! Bill, reality check, this stuff is true. Ban the guns, violent crime sores. Fact.
Gene

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[Ameradian]

Really Gene? From what data set do you draw this inference? Have you, for example, lived in these countries? Have you, to give another example, performed an analysis to see if this is true? Frankly Americans have become dogmaticians. Everything is simply believed, it is *in nuce*--dogma. No one actually studies these things,they just pass on hear say. Did you notice in the article given above that he never drew upon Canadian statistics? That's because his case would have collapsed. Canada has not seen a true mass murderer, to cite but one metric we could examine, since that crazed idiot in Montreal who killed all those women with his rifle. I can't remember when that was but I think that was almost 20 or thiry years ago now (anyone Canadians can chime in on this date and set me straight). As for the UK did our intrepid author live there? Did he even cite his sources for his claims? NO!!!! This is the problem Gene. Never accept what anyone tells you, let alone a tendentious group like the NRA or our author cited above. Always study everything for yourself. And never read just the pro side, read the best of the contra side too. Then of course form a conclusion. Gene I can only tell you from personal experience that America is far more prone to murder and violent crime than either Canada or the UK. Even Europe, at least the part I have lived in, was much safer than the States. We are lagging behind and it soils our reputation abroad. We can, and should, do better. Gun control is a very good thing. My God, we make people do more for the drivers licence than for a gun purchase!!! Something is very wrong with this sort of thinking.
Cheers
Bill

 

[Sled Puller]

You are right Bill.
I have never seen a drive by shooting, therefore it does not happen.
I have never seen a man go into a public place and start shooting, therefore it does not happen.
I have never seen anyone shoot heroin, therefore, it is not a problem.
There is more than enough gun control laws right now.
If you think We, The People do not need guns, then you are in the wrong country.
Go somewhere else and try to steal Freedom, leave us alone.
Remember the woman in Lubys? She left her handgun in her car obeying the law, and watched her parents gunned down.
Millions of times each year, guns prevent crime. Nobody reports it because it does not help their Socialsit Agenda.

Cut out the drugs and crime with guns would be nil.
All my neighbors are armed to the teeth and we have 0 violent crime.
Gene

 

[Sled Puller]

Funny thing you mention cars.
They are all licensed, the drivers are licensed and insured, yet thousands are killed every year.
HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN? Must not be enough laws.
How can it make you safer if my gun is registered? The crack dealers are not going sign on the dotted line!

There is only one reason to register, future confiscation.

Here is a good article. http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/duffy62.html

 

[Sled Puller]

SOILS OUR REPUTATION ABROAD!!!
They can kiss my *** ! Our forefathers left that crap hole to find a better life!

Then we bailed them out TWICE from major ca-ca! Should have let Hitler stomp their sorry BUTTS. But no, we are the good guys, have to help out. Go Stop a mad man because NOONE else could.
Hitler was big on gun control, there is a good example. Do you use 1930's Germany as a prime example for quality gun control, Cheers Bill? There was a safe country! I believe there is Several million people who would love to argue that point, but they can't. They are dead. They had no guns to fight back.

oops, I'm sorry, I read about WWII, it must not have happened.
Gun Control is a good idea if you want to enslave people.
Who do you want to enslave Cheers Bill?

 

[Ameradian]

Gene, here is your proof, straight from the US Justice Dept. itslef. Go to www.ojp. usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/html/cjusew96/crpr.htm
Notice the graphs between England and America on violent crimes. See how much higher it is here rather than there. See what I mean Gene, never believe anyone. This only took me several minutes to refute the article above. Your first clue should have been that the author did not even use any Canadian statistics. Something was amiss right there!
Cheers
Bill

 

[Dave B]

Not to fan the flames too bad, but... ...
... just whose country had to have the United States take up a COLLECTION, that's right mate, a COLLECTION, of PRIVATELY OWNED weapons to be shipped to them so they could defend their island against the Nazis????? You don't think the SS woulda grabbed hold of every piece of "registration" paper if Germany's Operation Sea Lion would've succeeded?!?!?! Ha. Anyone with a gun in Britain would've been tracked down, and you know the rest of the story.