cdl woes

[f.boyle]

saw a DMV truck today (powerstrok-least it was diesel,kinda) asked him what was up didn't get shot at or nothing:-laf unless combined weight truck+trailer ids over 26001 pounds do as you please basicaly he gave us(Dad was with me) the bridge formula- as long as your axles and tires can handle it at 8' axel to axel you can combined total at 34000 pounds on that vehicle but after 26001 pounds you need a cdl. got it from the source. thank you all for the help hope I helped some of you also.

Frank

 

[Archive]

Someone please explain to me how...

... illegal aliens can come over here to train and receive an AIRPLANE PILOTS LICENSE while we're forced to wade endlessly thru a bureaucratic maze just to drive our pick-up trucks?

 

[f.boyle]

Who knows?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FL70CAT]

What type of trailer was it??



If it was an RV it is no wonder he wasn't allowed to take a CDL test!





I feel like a skipping record when I tell people time after time that an RV IS EXEMPT from commercial vehicle restrictions!

 

[Dkevdog]

Originally posted by Koa Man





Both the A and B requires a truck 26001 lbs. or more GVW. The A is if you tow more than 10K, the B is up to 10K... . CDL requirements are supposed to be the same nationwide.

Not true- My wife carries a Class B CDL with Passenger and Air endorsement- While she took the test with an 84 passenger 3 axle bus, many of the drivers take the test with Type 2 (van coversion) buses- which are only rated at about 13000 GVW. It does vary from state to state too..... Just something to add to the confusion.



Kev

 

[Koa Man]

Originally posted by Dkevdog





It does vary from state to state too..... Just something to add to the confusion.



Kev

When the CDL laws first came out and I went to the general knowledge class and test, the instructor told us these laws were passed so there would be a uniform law and requirement to drive a CDL vehicle in all 50 states. Apparently our legislators have found a way to screw it up and have different states have different requirements. This is probably why my bro-in-law, who had a class A with all endorsements except for passenger, had to retake the tests to get a CA CDL instead of just exchanging his HI CDL when he moved to CA. Just glad I have mine and can't drive across state lines where I live. I feel for you guys who have to drive cross country and have different requirements for every state DOT you come across.

 

[Dkevdog]

Originally posted by Koa Man





Apparently our legislators have found a way to screw it up

And this surprises you:-laf :-laf ??



Seriously though, CA is HIGHLY screwed up at DMV. You'll get different answers every time you go in there and most often the wrong ones at that. I had to RETEST to get my regular old class C licenese BACK after moving back to CA from living in CO for 5 years. Go figure... ... .



Kev

 

[f.boyle]

You have to take name incase you gotta open a can:-{}

Frank

 

[Bob Cochran]

Why is CDL apllied differently between states? I think it is because the FED's made the states fund, test for CDL. States was nothappy about it either. Course that couldhave changed but doubt it. Sooooo each state interprets and applies things differently. Example, one may ask you to back a set of doubles several hundred feet while others will only require backing up length of trailer. Some states it takes a lot to get CDL others practically nothing. Just my couple cents.

 

[w-cummins]

Originally posted by Bob Cochran

Why is CDL apllied differently between states? I think it is because the FED's made the states fund, test for CDL. States was nothappy about it either. Course that couldhave changed but doubt it. Sooooo each state interprets and applies things differently. Example, one may ask you to back a set of doubles several hundred feet while others will only require backing up length of trailer. Some states it takes a lot to get CDL others practically nothing. Just my couple cents.

The only way they would make you back up a set of doubles is if you were "nuts" and wanted to take the test with them. In fact I'm allmost sure that they would not let you take the test with them!

 

[f.boyle]

That would be your fault if you took doubles they dont back up at all

Frank

 

[w-cummins]

Originally posted by f. boyle

That would be your fault if you took doubles they dont back up at all

Frank

Well that's not true there are guys that can back them up, I'm just not one of them

 

[Goddard]

any you guys with 3500's with non-com tags, have to get HEAVY USE non-com tags at your license place? thats what i had to get this last time. she said all one tons have to have them and by the way they cost double!

 

[QRTRHRS]

Originally posted by Goddard

any you guys with 3500's with non-com tags, have to get HEAVY USE non-com tags at your license place? thats what i had to get this last time. she said all one tons have to have them and by the way they cost double!

Goddard, must be an Ohio "thing". My tag in PA is $198 for 11K. For that, I can do as I please within the weight limit. Beyond that for commercial use would be the medical card etc.



As has been discussed, if I wanted to go over 10k on the trailer, I would have to go combination which would be more.

 

[Bob Cochran]

Yep happened of course was in Commiefornia and the tester was an idiot. Went 2 weeks later diiferent tester and he came outside took one look and said " you got it here" you passed!!! end of test. He could not drive if he wanted to. Course this was all before CDL. Used to be you had to bring and test for what you drive or they listed that as a restriction!!! I have a feeling things have not change all that much. Yes doubles can be backed and no one said it is easy and how far makes a diff!!!

 

[Jff24Gordn]

doubles, hehe. . try backing up 4 hay wagons.

 

[Bob Cochran]

Nope 2 way enough for me!!!

 

[f.boyle]

hay wagons hu no problem!!!!! just takes time and lots of patience