Chevron station and biodiesel content.

[Ozymandias]

By the way, E85 is the name of a fuel but the term Flex-Fuel refers to a vehicle that can run either straight gasoline or E85 or any mixture of the two fuels. It's not very common but these vehicles have been available some ten to fifteen years ago when the first biofuel hype happened. Later on the greens figured out that this fuel was sometimes made from food grade produce and therefor it was a nasty fuel. That was the end of E85 - at least in Europe.

 

[Regcabguy]

By the way, E85 is the name of a fuel but the term Flex-Fuel refers to a vehicle that can run either straight gasoline or E85 or any mixture of the two fuels. It's not very common but these vehicles have been available some ten to fifteen years ago when the first biofuel hype happened. Later on the greens figured out that this fuel was sometimes made from food grade produce and therefor it was a nasty fuel. That was the end of E85 - at least in Europe.

Produce wasn't green enough for the Greens eh?

 

[Diesel Gunner]

Here is the product explanation from Chevron's website.

"Chevron Renewable Diesel Blend is a fuel created by blending Chevron Renewable Diesel with up to 20% Chevron Biodiesel. This fuel is commonly called R80-B20 since itis a blend of at least 80% renewable diesel and up to 20% biodiesel, with no more than 1% conventional petroleum diesel. Made primarily from renewable sources, Chevron Renewable Diesel Blend meets or exceeds industry standards and provides a lower life cycle carbon intensity than conventional petroleum diesel under California’s low-carbon Fuel Standard. Since the product contains 20% biodiesel, the California Department of Weights and measures requires that the official name include Biodiesel."

Wow. Makes you feel all sqwooshy inside, don't it?

Thanks, but I like my diesel fuel like I like my coffee and whiskey. Straight.

 

[BSeyler]

This is a story from August, 2020, but shows the trend. I’m not sure we can avoid it… https://www.thecheyennepost.com/bus...cle_298d8914-e246-11ea-8579-034de376cd89.html

 

[Diesel Gunner]

I wonder if our illustrious leaders in Sacramento have extended the transfer of wealth beyond 2022.

"There is also a tax credit of $1 per gallon of renewable diesel which doesn’t expire until 2022."

 

[Regcabguy]

Here is the product explanation from Chevron's website.

"Chevron Renewable Diesel Blend is a fuel created by blending Chevron Renewable Diesel with up to 20% Chevron Biodiesel. This fuel is commonly called R80-B20 since itis a blend of at least 80% renewable diesel and up to 20% biodiesel, with no more than 1% conventional petroleum diesel. Made primarily from renewable sources, Chevron Renewable Diesel Blend meets or exceeds industry standards and provides a lower life cycle carbon intensity than conventional petroleum diesel under California’s low-carbon Fuel Standard. Since the product contains 20% biodiesel, the California Department of Weights and measures requires that the official name include Biodiesel."

Wow. Makes you feel all sqwooshy inside, don't it?

Thanks, but I like my diesel fuel like I like my coffee and whiskey. Straight.

Thanks Bud. I'll steer clear.

 

[Ozymandias]

Renewable Diesel is IDENTICAL to normal fossil fuel, there is no reason to make a difference when there isn't.

 

[BLK-9]

I’m traveling to CA from FL next month to visit my grandchildren. Given these different fuel requirements in CA, what are the best places/brands to get diesel fuel?

 

[Regcabguy]

I’m traveling to CA from FL next month to visit my grandchildren. Given these different fuel requirements in CA, what are the best places/brands to get diesel fuel?

Shell,76,independents. The fuel's $4.99 everywhere. I'd just avoid Chevron.

 

[Diesel Gunner]

There is learning curve to everything. Remember when biodiesel was all the rage and people were buying their own equipment to make their own? Sure, people still are. And, they are still learning

 

[AnonEd]

I’m traveling to CA from FL next month to visit my grandchildren. Given these different fuel requirements in CA, what are the best places/brands to get diesel fuel?

If you find a Nevada casino or Arizona station off the interstate just before CA you'll save $1-2/gallon.

 

[Ozymandias]

That reminds me, Arizona has two! Diesel prices, commercial and non-commercial, find the right one and pay 20ct less per Gallon.

 

[crowman]

The question is. Is the biodiesel safe to use in our engines? What does Cummins say?

 

[Ozymandias]

We have discussed this a month ago or so, it is NOT 80% Biodiesel. I forgot what it was called but it is synthetic Fuel that is IDENTICAL to fossil fuel in any way. Problem is they haven't a name for that stuff here in the US and so they label it as 80% Bio which is totally wrong.

Maybe someone remembers that thread and can clear up that.

 

[Regcabguy]

We have renewable diesel here which is 95% biomass. 76 has it and so does 7-11. It was competitively priced for months but has risen 15 cents/gallon.
https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/emerg...,alkyl ester produced via transesterification. I get identical mpg out of it and zero fuel filter issues 2000 miles.
If you're a fan of diesel fumes this is not for you. Chevron states there's is 20% biofuel. https://blog.veolianorthamerica.com/biodiesel-vs.-renewable-diesel-are-they-the-same

 

[06 Dodge]

The question is. Is the biodiesel safe to use in our engines? What does Cummins say?

5% is safe to use, used it a lot in my 2006, IIRC Cummins/FCA wants you to shorten your oil change intervals when using more than 5% Bio, you need to be careful because Alga that can grow in Bio diesel, that stuff can screw up your fuel system so I think its a good idea to use high quality fuel filters that filter to 5 micron & is good at trapping water, also if using 20% Bio treat your fuel tank with Algicide, IMO every 2 months...

 

[Learjet]

we are burning SAF in Jets, when it get processed it ends up as the same property as jet fuel with no additional maintenance requirements.

SAF:
Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) is a “drop-in” fuel that meets all the same technical and safety requirements as fossil-based jet fuel. SAF contains the same hydrocarbons (and thus the same tailpipe emissions) as fossil-based kerosene, but the difference is that the hydrocarbons came from a more sustainable source.

 

[seafish]

Here is an informative look by an engineer at Bio Diesel and its effect on engine lubrication
Note that I am starting the video at 7 minutres in, but you can watch the whole thing which includes much more info about what it is and how it is made.

Cummins has been rated for B20 since 2002 .

 

[Cummins12V98]

When I tow from Sacramento to Bakersfield all the truck stops have B20. I have to say I get some of my best towing mileage using it. 9.5-10mpg double towing 35k combined. This is filled to the top hand calc.

 

[petersonj]

@Cummins12V98 , I can say that I had similar experiences a couple of years ago using B20 several times - both towing and running empty. Also hand calculated. A couple of the empty trips were just under 23 mpg, at mostly 60 mph driving the two-lanes.

- John