Chrysler Puts Hold On G-56 Equipped Deliveries

[EBottema]

Tim,



It was in jest. I'm not really considering selling my 2nd generation truck (which, by the way, isn't affected by launch shudder, 70 MPH vibration, CP3 failures, etc. etc. etc. ) and is still on its original lift pump (16+ PSIG @ idle, 11 PSIG @ WOT) and VP-44. Enjoy your 3rd gen.



Rusty

You would not take a 2nd gen Tim if it was for free? Geez a 12v is a very dependable and reliable rig. 3rd gens are plush but that is all. My 96 does not have all the major problems with the driveline and steering since i upgraded them. I will have to go with rusty, enjoy your 3rd gen :-laf

 

[Tim]

I was referring to the 2003 you're talking about purchasing on another thread.



Rusty

All options are on the table at this point. I ordered an '05 months ago if you didn't see that yet either.

 

[RustyJC]

Yes, I saw that and also saw that you're ready to call tomeygun and cancel the order. As I said, enjoy your 3rd gen, regardless of whether you purchase the truck you ordered, find another new one on the lot or purchase a used one.



Rusty

 

[Tim]

I said ALL options are on the table. That means Fords too.



I already called Tom. He just hasn't called me back yet.

 

[RustyJC]

I said ALL options are on the table. That means Fords too.

Ummmm..... OK.



Rusty

 

[Tim]

I spoke with Tom. As it stands right now my truck is on, "Hold" at the rail yard. So as far as I know, this is true.

 

[abdiver]

Honda TRUCK

just saw a honda truck today. looks kinda like a mini avalanch-stupid and yes, yuppie is a go discription. unfortunatly unlike dodge, honda and toyota know how to improve and engineer vehicals. i would never play the ginnea pig on a new trans or any other part for that matter. tried and true is the way to go. damn ford guys out here are gonna love this.

I understand there is some new technology in the sheet metal/Frame that would help to protect occupants in crash.



Sure they are not a real truck yet, but give them a few years in our mkt

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

Wisely spoken:

It appears the best rigs out there may just be a pre 04. 5 unit with quad and 6 spd in IMO

affected by launch shudder, 70 MPH vibration, CP3 failures, leaking injectors

According to the last TDR issue the reliability of the 3G is doing better than the 94-98 2G. Only a small minority of the trucks had launch shudder, the vibes, and leaking injectors. Fewer still the CP3 failures, especially when compared to the VP44.

 

[RustyJC]

According to the last TDR issue the reliability of the 3G is doing better than the 94-98 2G. Only a small minority of the trucks had launch shudder, the vibes, and leaking injectors. Fewer still the CP3 failures, especially when compared to the VP44.

That's nice, but since taking delivery of my 2002 (the last year of the 2nd generations) on August 15, 2001, it has never been back to the dealer for anything, let alone a warranty-related problem. How does one get more reliable than that?



Rusty

 

[robert4570]

Don't have all the facts about this, but here is what I've been told. Chrysler has put a delivery hold on all new G-56 6 speeds. If the truck is on the dealer lot, it can be sold. If it is in production, or on the rails to be delivered, they will not release the vehicle.



There seems to be a problem with the "flex plate. " This is what I'm being told by the largest volume Dodge dealer in the Northwest. I'm going to call their tech rep tomorrow and see if I can get more information.



This may be a minor problem, or it could be a significant delay. My local dealer didn't tell me about this, until today, even though the information has been out there since Friday or Saturday, last week. They didn't tell me what the problem was, just that there was a hold. Had to call another dealer for more information.



Those of us with the G-56 manual transmission ordered now have a major decision to make. Wait and see if it is a minor fix (doesn't sound like it, or I think they would have released them to the dealers), cancel the order and buy something else, or wait for them to get it all ironed out and buy a truck later. This is a real bummer...

I SAY WE ALL RISE UP AND APPLUADE CHRYSLER'S TOP BRASS FOR THEIR GREAT SCREW UP IN DROPPING THE ONLY VIABLE TRANSMISSION IT HAD TO OFFER FOR THE CTD , THE NV 5600.

THEY HAD A GOOD THING GOING , OH WELL .

GLAD I GOT MY 5600 LAST YEAR . :-{}

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

How does one get more reliable than that?

I'm glad for your good fortune Rusty. However a sample size of 1 doesn't not a reliable statistic make.



Other than having the TSB on a fusable link on the 98 and a broken plastic doodaw on the 02 I had no other problems with my G2s. On the G3 the passanger speaker and the door weather stripping needed the TSB. No major complaints from me yet. Love to keep it that way.

 

[sag2]

Sometimes you guys confuse me so much. If DC puts out a product and it fails, they are &*%$#$. Now they put a hold on something to keep it out of the customers hands until they figure out the situation (I'm going along with the problem assumption) and they are &*%$#$.

Make up your minds what you want. Personally I think they are heros if they don't want a problem out in the market.

 

[Tim]

Sometimes you guys confuse me so much. If DC puts out a product and it fails, they are &*%$#$. Now they put a hold on something to keep it out of the customers hands until they figure out the situation (I'm going along with the problem assumption) and they are &*%$#$.

Make up your minds what you want. Personally I think they are heros if they don't want a problem out in the market.

Shut the @$#@ up. You're not the one that has been waiting months for a truck that you need to go on a trip you've been planning for even longer.

 

[RustyJC]

I'm glad for your good fortune Rusty. However a sample size of 1 doesn't not a reliable statistic make.

To the contrary - it's the only statistic that matters to me - my truck has been 100% reliable. :-laf



Rusty

 

[Tim]

To the contrary - it's the only statistic that matters to me - my truck has been 100% reliable. :-laf



Rusty

I noticed you started talking about the reliability of the 12v engine. That's fine, but we all know Cummins has far more to offer us than Dodge ever could anyway.



I personally do not care for the "Dodge" part of the 2nd gen trucks. It has nothing to do with the Cummins.

 

[RustyJC]

I noticed you started talking about the reliability of the 12v engine.

Oh, really? Want to point that out to me? I've never OWNED a 12 valve Cummins, so I seriously doubt that I'd be touting its reliability to anyone since I have no direct experience.



Rusty

 

[TBrennan]

My 3rd gen is approacing 40K miles and hasn't been back to the dealer for repair either. No vibrations or failures of any kind.

 

[Tim]

Oh, really? Want to point that out to me? I've never OWNED a 12 valve Cummins, so I seriously doubt that I'd be touting its reliability to anyone since I have no direct experience.



Rusty

Sorry, I got you confused with another user. Either way I don't want a 2nd gen truck. I drove one to try to see if it was for me and it certainly wasn't.

 

[RustyJC]

My 3rd gen is approacing 40K miles and hasn't been back to the dealer for repair either. No vibrations or failures of any kind.

Which is precisely my point. Just as it's unfair to "tar" all 3rd generation trucks with launch shudder, 70 MPH vibration, injector leakage, ball joint and other issues, it's also unfair to "tar" all 2nd generation trucks with lift pump and VP-44 issues. Lots of us have had no problems at all (2nd and 3rd generation trucks).



Rusty

 

[Tim]

Which is precisely my point. Just as it's unfair to "tar" all 3rd generation trucks with launch shudder, 70 MPH vibration, injector leakage, ball joint and other issues, it's also unfair to "tar" all 2nd generation trucks with lift pump and VP-44 issues. Lots of us have had no problems at all (2nd and 3rd generation trucks).



Rusty

Those are just ENGINE issues you mentioned with the 2nd gen trucks. What about stuff like the front track bar that wears out quickly and makes your truck wander all over the road? What about 5th gear falling off the NV4500? What about the fact that those trucks all had less power than a new one? Also, consider that the newest 2nd gen truck is 3 years old right now and they only go down from there.



That's great that you love your 2nd gen truck. Me personally, I wouldn't want a truck with more known issues/problems that was older and used when I had ordered a new truck. If I was going to buy a 2nd gen I'd have a 12v for pulling only.