Competition COMP = Banks "Type R" driver in '07

[COMP461]

"Banks is a nice match for COMP, they both think diesels are gas engines

with different fuel"





Shed Putter

Not a gas engine, just an air pump. Nothing more then a four stroke, reciprocation, Otto cycle, internal combustion engine. Nothing more or less. You’ll never learn, and never comprehend, you absolute ignorance of any thing mechanical should be an embarrassment to yourself.

Torque is a meaningless element of horsepower, the only real quantity of capability, But you just a irrelevant wantabee , . What have you ever done, but drag you dirty little digits over a keyboard, try, and make your self relevant? Shed Putter , the worlds fastest keyboard pecker .

 

[banshee]

Not a gas engine, just an air pump. Nothing more then a four stroke, reciprocation, Otto cycle, internal combustion engine.

A Diesel engine does NOT operate on the Otto cycle Comp. Try again!

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Comp, who you talking to . . . ?



Shedputter . . . ? You drinkin again ?

 

[nwpadmax]

... Torque is a meaningless element of horsepower...

Could you please explain that statement?

 

[John_P]

Hey Gene,... ... . I am not seeing alot of love here from COMP??? :-laf



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Greg:



FWIW, although Gene may not have ever drag raced his diesel pickup, IMO he did very well in sled pulling during the time he was competing in DHRA and has plenty of wins under his belt. You may not want to give him credit for that but I was at many of the sled pulling competitions he won. His AMSOIL Dodge ran good.



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John_P

 

[RacinDuallie]

I thought I remember Gene DID race at one time and even got a trophy with his truck... ...

 

[COMP461]

One more time, on the torque vs. Hp comparison.

Torque is a component use in figuring horsepower, nothing more.

Torque X rpm’s / 5252 = horsepower.

Torque can be manipulate to fit the application,

Example

If you have a 500 hp @ 5252 rpms, you have 500 pft. Let’s start at the flywheel, and work back to the tire contact patch, for this example let’s assuming that there are no parasitic losses in the drive train. Now let’s start working our way back, and go thru a first gear Ratio of 2. 50 to1. You now have at the tail shaft of the transmission 1250 pft and the same 500 hp , keep going and turn the corner at the differential with a ration of lets say 3. 73 , and at the tire contact patch you have a whopping 4662. 5 pft and the same 500 hp.

If you add a torque converter in to the mix, you get a variable gear ratio, and nothing more then that, just like the variable belt drives on a snowmobile, only in fluid.



The only limitation to this stacking of ratios to achieve maximum acceleration is the ability to accelerate for one rpm to the next, with out significant losses

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Hey Gene,... ... . I am not seeing alot of love here from COMP??? :-laf



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Greg:



FWIW, although Gene may not have ever drag raced his diesel pickup, IMO he did very well in sled pulling during the time he was competing in DHRA and has plenty of wins under his belt. You may not want to give him credit for that but I was at many of the sled pulling competitions he won. His AMSOIL Dodge ran good.



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John_P

John P, dont give him too much credit, his head might swell up half as much as Comps... . :-laf :-laf

 

[Timbeaux38]

One more time, on the torque vs. Hp comparison.
Torque is a component use in figuring horsepower, nothing more.
Torque X rpm’s / 5252 = horsepower.
Torque can be manipulate to fit the application,
Example
If you have a 500 hp @ 5252 rpms, you have 500 pft. Let’s start at the flywheel, and work back to the tire contact patch, for this example let’s assuming that there are no parasitic losses in the drive train. Now let’s start working our way back, and go thru a first gear Ratio of 2. 50 to1. You now have at the tail shaft of the transmission 1250 pft and the same 500 hp , keep going and turn the corner at the differential with a ration of lets say 3. 73 , and at the tire contact patch you have a whopping 4662. 5 pft and the same 500 hp.
If you add a torque converter in to the mix, you get a variable gear ratio, and nothing more then that, just like the variable belt drives on a snowmobile, only in fluid.

The only limitation to this stacking of ratios to achieve maximum acceleration is the ability to accelerate for one rpm to the next, with out significant losses

See there? Greg must still be getting Math and Physics help from Stephen Hawking... ... ... ... . You bringing him and Amish over to the new team Greg?
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[nwpadmax]

One more time, on the torque vs. Hp comparison.

Torque is a component use in figuring horsepower, nothing more.

Torque X rpm’s / 5252 = horsepower.

Torque can be manipulate to fit the application,

Example

If you have a 500 hp @ 5252 rpms, you have 500 pft. Let’s start at the flywheel, and work back to the tire contact patch, for this example let’s assuming that there are no parasitic losses in the drive train. Now let’s start working our way back, and go thru a first gear Ratio of 2. 50 to1. You now have at the tail shaft of the transmission 1250 pft and the same 500 hp , keep going and turn the corner at the differential with a ration of lets say 3. 73 , and at the tire contact patch you have a whopping 4662. 5 pft and the same 500 hp.

If you add a torque converter in to the mix, you get a variable gear ratio, and nothing more then that, just like the variable belt drives on a snowmobile, only in fluid.



The only limitation to this stacking of ratios to achieve maximum acceleration is the ability to accelerate for one rpm to the next, with out significant losses

Iinteresting. Howcome most people look at it the totally opposite way?

 

[Rebel Ram]

"Builder, Driver and tuner of the Quickest and Fastest Diesel Drag Truck on the Planet 8. 62@159. 88"



You left out owner. DOHHH!!! :-laf

 

[TravisG]

John, John Jr. Sleddy, Tim, and RD you guyz are totally missing something here. There is no way that comp typed any of those posts. I well lit yau gues howw i fingered it out.



Good luck Greg and Gale.



P. S. you should never give your internet password out to anyone else.

 

[John_P]

Travis:



Thanks for the "heads-up" on COMP. You probably are right, but to me it still "sounds" like Greg.



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GIT-R-DONE:



For some reason, Gene has always been able to "rattle" COMP's cage for some reason. IMO, their relationship is like oil and water,... ... ... it just DOES NOT mix!! :-laf I like Gene and always have gotten along with him. IMO,..... he "tells it like it is" and personally I have no problem with that. And I know he would probably never do it, but I would like to see Gene try the drag racing as I think he would like it.



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John_P

 

[RacinDuallie]

Not a gas engine, just an air pump. Nothing more then a four stroke, reciprocation, Otto cycle, internal combustion engine. Nothing more or less. You’ll never learn, and never comprehend, you absolute ignorance of any thing mechanical should be an embarrassment to yourself.
Torque is a meaningless element of horsepower, the only real quantity of capability, But you just a irrelevant wantabee , . What have you ever done, but drag you dirty little digits over a keyboard, try, and make your self relevant? Shed Putter , the worlds fastest keyboard pecker .

Tell Otto he needs to change his Sig as he is no longer the qwickest.

 

[fest3er]

... I like Gene and always have gotten along with him. IMO,..... he "tells it like it is" and personally I have no problem with that. And I know he would probably never do it, but I would like to see Gene try the drag racing as I think he would like it. ...

He has. But it took him 8 seconds to go 300 foot, and 8 more seconds to reach the 1/4 mile traps. Being the sled puller he is, he was probably thinking, "300' in 8 seconds! Great pull!" A couple seconds likely passed before he remembered where he was; then he probably thought, "Damn! I'm drag racing! I got another 1300 feet to go! Damn!"



Yeah, it took him a while to launch, but once he reached 5th gear, he was gone.

 

[Todd T]

A Diesel engine does NOT operate on the Otto cycle Comp. Try again!

Yeah, (Otto cycle) I caught that too, figured he's just trying to get the nomenclature (get into the roll, if you will) down of his new sugar daddy.

 

[Sled Puller]

Not a gas engine, just an air pump. Nothing more then a four stroke, reciprocation, Otto cycle, internal combustion engine. Nothing more or less. You’ll never learn, and never comprehend, you absolute ignorance of any thing mechanical should be an embarrassment to yourself.

Torque is a meaningless element of horsepower, the only real quantity of capability, But you just a irrelevant wantabee , . What have you ever done, but drag you dirty little digits over a keyboard, try, and make your self relevant? Shed Putter , the worlds fastest keyboard pecker .

I didn't expect that kind of response from a Banks Engineering associate.....



Did you clear that post with Gale first?



What I do know, is as soon as DrPs ride got rid of DEAD WEIGHT from the drivers seat, it FLYS!!!!!

 

[LPreston]

Since I honestly wasn't 100% on the true def of it, I looked up Otto Cycle and found this link:



Diesel cycle

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The Diesel cycle is the combustion process of a type of internal combustion engine, in which the burning of the fuel is triggered by the heat generated in first compressing air in the piston cavity, into which is then injected the fuel - as opposed to it being ignited by a spark plug, as combustion is in the Otto cycle (four-stroke/petrol) engine. Diesel engines (Heat engines utilizing the Diesel cycle) are used in automobiles, power generation, diesel-electric locomotives, and submarines.



See additionally:

Thermodynamic cycles

Atkinson cycle

Brayton/Joule cycle

Carnot cycle

Combined cycle

Crower cycle

Ericsson cycle

Hirn cycle

Kalina cycle

Lenoir Cycle

Linde-Hampson cycle

Miller cycle

Mixed/Dual Cycle

Otto cycle

Porter/Brayton cycle

Rankine cycle

Scuderi cycle

Stirling cycle



Just looks like they forgot bi-cycle, motor-cycle and Keating cycle :-laf .