Concerned with lack of power available, wont even spin tire......

[Deleted member 995608]

This thread sorta reminds me of the stuff I read on Cummins forum. I'm waiting for the "My Duramax or my Ford never had these problems" comments.

All joking aside, these trucks are SO electrically complex and it's unfortunate, but it will take time, money and engineering to iron of the lumps. It's sad that we have to be consumer guinea pigs in the process, hence why I haven't bought a 2014/15.......yet.

I'm not a GloBULL climate, warming, change guy and don't understand why the Fed's ram rod new emission standards that don't exist yet. My 2004.5 achieved good mileage, ran smooth and never smoked. It was by far, the best of the (3) Dodge Cummins I've owned. The only reason sold it was because everything else was starting to fall off around the engine. Now we're stuck with problimatic and perplexed electrical monsters that get crappy fuel mileage and require additional man made fluids (DEF). I just don't get why we have to fix what wasn't broke.

 

[NC Ram 3500]

Guys my 1st of many posts. To comment, the TM Chrysler has on our trucks in my opinion is to restrictive. They won't allow the torque converter to lock up until it well into the gear your in. If Chrysler is worried about us breaking parts, why don't they build a drive train to handle their advertised torque and horsepower ratings? I have never driven a truck that has so much flare between gear changes. Don't get me wrong, I love almost everything about my 14' except the way my transmission shifts.

 

[Ram4Sam]

Guys my 1st of many posts.

Welcome........rookie

Sam

 

[pcdavis]

Just read this on a thread over at cummins forum. You might want to try this next time. I haven't had a chance to do it myself yet. Will try tomorrow.

While in 4x4, press and hold the traction control button for about 5 seconds. You'll get a message on your EVIC that traction control and stability control has been deactivated.
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[SnoKing]

From OP original post! "Made sure the traction control was disabled (thought that it was automatically disabled in 4 LO). "

 

[russellmarine]

Well, between opening of deer season and the sub artic winter weather that has moved in, I have not had a chance to test yet on dry ground with my tow strap. I know it will slip wheels no snow, no big deal there..... Has anyone else had noticed anything like this when pulling hard, I know rolling down a dirt road it will spin the tires, but was shocked to find that when not moving/stationary it would not apply enough power to spin crappy oem half worn tires on dirt..... I will try to video when I do it..... couldn't see it through the snow right now.....

 

[AEdelheit]

I was just talking with my buddy who had a 2014 2500, he said it has a hard time spinning the tires unless he turn of the traction control button, I think its labeled TSC or something like that. With that off it does better but still had some traction control bit but while in 4x4, press and hold the traction control button for about 5 seconds, You'll get a message on your EVIC that traction control and stability control has been deactivated then its pretty well deactivated.

 

[zb39]

My 2011 will spin with no problem.

 

[garrettg84]

I can light my tires up on command. If I'm not careful it will break loose on me when the roads are wet even if I'm not really trying. I've kicked the rear end out a bit at about 35mph when I floor it on wet roads. I do drive like an ******* - pedal to the metal 24/7. The truck has learned my driving habits and seems to accept that it'll be flogged. Truck is bone stock. 4wd on snow while full throttle sliding around corners is fun =) I've never turned off traction control.

Just played around with 4lo today. Not really a fan of all the truck neutral garbage. It is certainly ridiculously torquey in 4lo. Sounded like somebody hit the frame with a sledge when it engaged and unengaged. Wasn't expecting that much noise from it.

 

[russellmarine]

yea, it makes quite a bang.... As far as tire spin, Must be something different with mine. It really chokes you down on the snow and will barely let you spin a tire, slowly applying more power as you build up speed. If you mash the pedal it will spin some, but normal application, especially in 2wd, you really notice it throttling you back. apparently I am to easy on mine or there is a major difference in the power management of the 68/vs aisin..... If I want to have some fun, I need to turn trac control off.....

 

[sluper]

My first 4X4 just wanted to have it if it were ever needed, recently had 15 big round bales of hay on the trailer when I lost a tire. Repairman asked me to pull the trailer up onto a board for the jack to have a little more height. Truck tires broke traction and if I did not have the 4X4 it would not have pulled the trailer tire onto the board. It seems mine seems to work just fine.

 

[Newsa]

G56 breaks loose in 3rd gear on wet roads in 2wd. Takes a second or 2 for the traction control light to flash on the dash and apply the brakes

 

[russellmarine]

I am really impressed with how well the trac control works on the truck in general driving. I do not hammer it, but I don't baby it either. It really reduces the wheel spin on snow/ice, at times almost eliminating it (on snow with reasonable traction). I was equally amazed at the fact that it wouldn't spin tires when I thought it was disabled pulling hard on a stationary load. I am guessing if already moving, it would be a little different. If the Artic winter here in Michigan ever lets up, I am going to run a test with it, including the long hold of the esc button.....

 

[AEdelheit]

We did some reading in the manual of the 2014 and it sounds like holding the ESC button for 5 seconds will completely turn off traction control under 40mph, over 40mph it goes to a medium traction control. Hopefully one of the dealer techs could verify this.

 

[Trowel2013]

We did some reading in the manual of the 2014 and it sounds like holding the ESC button for 5 seconds will completely turn off traction control under 40mph, over 40mph it goes to a medium traction control. Hopefully one of the dealer techs could verify this.

That only works in 4wd, unfortunately. I believe you have to be stopped while doing that as well.

 

[Sticks]

Now if we could just find a way to have 2wd LOW. Very handy homebrew option on my '02

 

[photowrite]

Now if we could just find a way to have 2wd LOW. Very handy homebrew option on my '02

I would love 2WD low, just gave that up when I sold my F-350 with manual hubs for the '14 2500.

 

[98ramtough]

I had a 2010 for 130k+ miles and pulled a similar boat out of bad ramps 100s of times. I know the 2014s have a lot more nanny and controls on them, but I can say the motor and 68RFE on mine never had any issues what so ever. I was always impressed how well it pulled anything up bad ramps. I had towed many of other diesel trucks and boats off slick ramps with chains and such.... Hope you figured it out..

 

[Alan Reagan]

The only time this has ever happened to me was on my 05. It was like a dead pedal with the throttle. I was parked on an incline, nose up and started to pull off and just like you, the truck would not go. I had some throttle but not enough to pull off. I ended up shutting down and restarting the engine, idling for a minute or so and that solved the problem. I always thought that it was a problem with the transmission leaking down fluid from the filter but could never verify it. It never happened again and the truck had 120k on the clock when I traded it. The reason I thought it was the transmission was that my wife's Jeep would do the same thing and then I read where it was a known issue with the fluid having to build pressure before the vehicle would pull off.

I'm on my second 6.7 and have never had a problem with either one lacking power. There are some steep boat ramps on SE coast and twice I have pulled trucks with their trailered boats up the ramps with no problem.