covid vaccine yet

[Mhennessy]

I have been offered and on the brink of forced to take the Vaccine but am declining it along with over half of our FD/EMS staff. This past October I and my family recovered from COVID19 and In my professional and personal experience with the virus I'm out on the vaccine.

 

[TDRAdmin4]

Folks, let's keep the Covid-19 conspiracies which fail even basic fact-checking, as well as politically motivated posts out of "Other".

 

[Cummins12V98]

I may have crossed the line.......sorry!

A friends Son is a Paramedic/Firefighter. 12/26 got the shot. Five days later his girlfriend got Covid and the next day he had it.

He says a patient on a long Ambulance ride told him he had it. This was about 12/27.
Sucked to get the shot and still get it.

 

[Tractorat]

As with any shot it takes a couple weeks to take effect. And it takes 2 shots to get the full effect.

 

[DavidC]

from what I understand the vaccine does not keep you from getting covid, it's just a milder case, supposedly.

 

[HPSimpson]

Not directly vaccine related;

I just got off the phone with my brother to let me know our 93 year old mother is positive and admitted to the hospital. Aside from the virus, she is in excellent health and initially her doctor was considering her release until they found a small patch of pneumonia in one lung. Her O2 saturation was 96 at rest but dropped to 89 with the walk test. Body aches and fatigue but no fever. I talked with her several days ago and she said that she just wasn't feeling her usual self, but then admitted that her housekeeper did not seem right on her last visit. Turns out, her housekeeper was admitted the following day and put on a respirator. I asked if she was making sure that her housekeeper was following the protocol my brother (the doc') put in place and she said yes..."you know your brother, my home looks like a surgical room." She went for a test the next day and it came back positive but it took several days to manifest. At this moment they have her on steroids, antibiotics and something like Resmer...? and only time will tell. My mom is a spry old gal' and she won't go down without a fight. It pisses me off I can't even fly up there to visit her because they won't let anyone in but attending staff, but I understand. Be kind to one another...you never know.
Best wishes to all

BoeingDiesel sure hope your mother makes through this Covid-19 deal!

 

[Tractorat]

What Ive heard is that you can get the infection, but not the symptoms (which is what kills you, or makes you wish it would) I think Ive also heard it is the same with the flu shot

 

[BigPapa]

At this moment they have her on steroids, antibiotics and something like Resmer...?

If she’s in the hospital, it’s probably Remdesivir. They gave it to my best friend who almost died. He was in the hospital from 12-13 to 1-14, on a ventilator in a sedated “coma” for a week, and developed a fungus on his brain that he had to have brain surgery to remove.

 

[BillBaker]

"developed a fungus on his brain"... Geeez!... What caused the brain fungi??

 

[BigPapa]

They said the only way it could have gotten into his brain was from his lungs. They think it was either introduced from the ventilator or it was caused by the steroids he was on.

 

[kthaxton]

from what I understand the vaccine does not keep you from getting covid, it's just a milder case, supposedly.

As with any vaccine, it doesn't prevent the virus from entering your body, but it "teaches" your immune system how to respond to the infection. If the virus is attacked as it enters (because you already have the antibodies), very few to none of the virus cells will enter your cells and replicate.

So your immune system could possible respond fast enough that you never experience symptoms.

 

[AEdelheit]

It is known yet if a vaccinated person can still spread the virus? I have heard mixed answers.

 

[crispyboy]

Back in mid-July both of my parents in Florida contracted the virus. Mom 83 survived just fine. Said it was like a bad cold that wiped her out physically. She treated it at home. Dad 88, a frail man did not make it. He seemed to be doing well but in the last week of July he was becoming unresponsive. He was taken to the hospital 3x that week. The first two times they gave him a bag of fluids and sent him home within two hours. Mom was not allowed to be there as his advocate and family lives 1000 miles away. It was clear the hospital pretty much wrote him off. On the third trip they put him on ventilator. I flew down on Friday the 31st to assist mom as she was overwhelmed. The hospital would not allow us to see him. We only got to say our last goodbyes though a FaceTime call. Of course he was none responsive but hopefully he was able to hear us. What a terrible day....
Anyway a few days later his doctor told us that he did not die of Covid but rather had a stroke the last week July and his organs were shutting down. Totally misdiagnosed, care was not given and the hospital got their Covid payment. His death certificate said Covid and dementia. He never had dementia. He was hard of hearing and if he could hear you he would perfectly intelligent conversations with you. It really speaks loudly that you must have a strong advocate while in the hospital.
As far as the vaccine goes I am happy to wait and be at the end of the line. This whole virus has been politicized and thrown people into a panic. I know one person who had no troubles with the vaccine and of course another who said it was like 3 days of Covid all over again. I have gotten the flu shot in the past but not in recent years. I seem to get a touch of the flu with every vaccine so I just quit. I know of several people who have gotten the bug and it seems to run its course in short order.

 

[GCroyle]

Crispy boy,

Condolences to you and your family on loosing Dad.

Gary

 

[DavidC]

Crispy boy,

Condolences to you and your family on loosing Dad.

Gary

X2

 

[endoscott]

ICU doc, very interesting on all aspects of Covid. You can just view the 1st 5 minutes unless you want the deep dive. The viral replication (which is what remdesiver interrupts) is done by day 11. So if you get remdesivir day 12 that's just to make the doctor feel better, not you. And there is another kicker that involves $$ (as always). Gilead has applied for Medicare to cover the remdesivir. Not to be too cynical. Anyway, timing is everything. If you show up at day 12, forget any benefit from remdesivir. The virus is dead already, you can't kill it twice. The severe Covid disease that ensues is due to your immune response to dead virus/antigen-antibody complexes, it's not DIRECTLY from the virus.

Conversely, you DON'T want to be on steroids early. You don't want to suppress your immune system when the virus is going wild. But for sure you want steroids in the later phases, past day 11 or 12 or so. There is a difference in efficacy between different steroids as well. Dexamethasone is not as effective as Methylprednisone.

If you have to go to the hospital with Covid disease you need to be your own advocate or have a family member who can help. You might assume that the treating doctor is reading the current literature, but that may or may not be true. These guys are working in a "war zone", they are not going home and picking up the journals, so there is a lot of shooting from the hip. The science is changing rapidly.

He also talks about PCR testing and false pos/false neg testing. Testing is problematic. Very problematic.

 

[HPSimpson]

Condolences to you and your family on loosing your father.

 

[DHayden]

How long does vaccine protect? If you have had covid, you can get it again. So how long does vaccine last? You get the flu shot once a year and it usually is not even the right strain. Covid seems to be mutating into at least 3 if not 4 strains now that they say the vaccine will cover all. I highly doubt it. That would be a stroke of major luck and it doesnt seem to have happened in the past, I think its more propaganda. Getting off topic, back to my first question.

Condolences to all who have lost friends or loved ones.

 

[Cooper_D]

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[DHayden]

When I got tested, they tested for flu A, flu B and Covid. They said I had covid, they said my wife had all 3