crippled electrical system of the '06?

[foolkiller]

I was reading random threads and came upon a thread discussing best years for used trucks and stumbled upon this statement.



... everything an 04. 5 has plus lift pump in the tank, without the crippled electrical system of the '06.



I would assume whatever the electrical concern here applies to an 07 as well.



Could someone expand on this? I like to know more.



jeff

 

[JFaughn]

I thought that the best yr. mld. were the late model 12v ? or maybe I should take the question mark out , becouse thats what I like .

 

[brista]

foolkiller, the 06 trucks have gone to a Total Integrated Power Module (TIPM). This module does away with some fuse protection on some circuits and protects them electronically. The problem with this is you need to see a dealer for a reset of these things.

 

[foolkiller]

well that's no good.



thanks for the info though. could you reset them with the obd scan tool?

 

[CDonaldson]

Basically it has to do the most with trailer wiring. If you put relays in series with all you trailer wiring, plus fuses, you will eliminate the trailer wiring problems. Seems that something fries and is very expensive to replace. Living in the desert SW, the lenses on lighting fade and need replaced every few years. I changed all my trailer lighting to LED stuff, draws less power. While I was at it, I also re-wired both my trailers. I am using the painless wiring for all my in-cab additions. Each wire is fused. I used a relay in series with the incoming wiring to the painless unit and also fused the ground side. CYA both ways. I read something somewhere about CB radios causing a problem, can't remember what it was all about exactally, so I used shielded wire for my power connections and heavy duty coax for the antenna. More CYA. I have had NO problem with anything.



I do not know how they reset the TIPM, maybe that was what fried, don't want to know, just using good wiring practices and adding a few protections will go a real long way to not having the problem.



CD

 

[foolkiller]

I thought that the best yr. mld. were the late model 12v ? or maybe I should take the question mark out , becouse thats what I like .

i think you're right. the thread was specific to used 3 gens. the 2002 is in the running for the best also IMHO.



jeff

 

[Prairie Dog]

foolkiller, the 06 trucks have gone to a Total Integrated Power Module (TIPM). .

So is 06 the first year for TIPM?



Scotty

 

[foolkiller]

well the poster that stated what was quoted to start this thread was encouraging the purchase of the 05 while discouraging the 06 due to the electrical system. so i would say yes. 06 and 07, only, have the TIPM.

 

[JDerrick]

so great , Instead of the issues I was worried about with the vp44 pump on my 99' i get to fret over the electrical system in my 06' going nutz... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... . aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

 

[brista]

So is 06 the first year for TIPM?



Scotty

That is correct.

 

[sag2]

The electrical architecture is basically the same from 02-07. The first trucks used a front control module and a power distribution center to control many of the lighting and electrical functions. In 06 they went to a TIPM that combined the two modules into one. Not sure why anyone would think they are "bad" because there is very little trouble with them. They are "different", but that does not make them bad. Actually they offer better circuit protection and much better diagnostic capabilities than an "old" vehicle. That said they do require some understanding to avoid trouble. Most of the circuits are now high side drivers that control B+ to the circuit. They do not use fuses for the most part because a HSD can sense a short and shut itself off if required. Every few seconds it cames back to take another look at the circuit and if it sees a short a certain number of times it finally shuts the circuit down until the problem is corrected and the TIPM is reset. They are also programable so changes can be made via a flash instead of throwing the module away.

 

[hhranch]

06 Trailer Wiring Protection-"Understanding to Avoid Trouble"

What do you have to know or do to avoid problems with the wiring when pulling a trailer?

 

[sag2]

For a "normal" trailer, hook up the lights to the trailer wiring as you normally would. If you have a bunch of lights (like some big rigs) then you might have to install a relay and provide a dedicated B+ supply for the load. I believe the acceptable load for the trailer lights is 15 amps. That is a lot of current and most trailers are going to be significantly below that.

 

[Axekicker]

What do you have to know or do to avoid problems with the wiring when pulling a trailer?

Good Ideas: 1. When you plug the trailer lights into the truck... make sure you truck motor is not running and the ignition switch is "off"... and the truck lights are all "off". That will minimize the possibility of blowing a fuse or popping a relay. 2. Make sure you have good trailer "grounds". 3. If you ever blow a trailer tire... check your nearby electrical wiring. I blew a tire on a trip and it shredded my electric brake wiring (behind the backer-plate) which then blew fuses like crazy until I located and corrected the problem (shredded insulation and conductor-to-frame short-circuiting).

 

[foolkiller]

Good Ideas: 1. When you plug the trailer lights into the truck... make sure you truck motor is not running and the ignition switch is "off"... and the truck lights are all "off". That will minimize the possibility of blowing a fuse or popping a relay. 2. Make sure you have good trailer "grounds". 3. If you ever blow a trailer tire... check your nearby electrical wiring. I blew a tire on a trip and it shredded my electric brake wiring (behind the backer-plate) which then blew fuses like crazy until I located and corrected the problem (shredded insulation and conductor-to-frame short-circuiting).

good input... . thanks. i almost always have the truck idling when hooking up a trailer.

 

[TMoe]

Someone please invent a fused plug adapter between the trailer and vehicle so I don't have to worry about IPM towing issues. Can I reset the IPM with my AutoXray AX 6000 or is it a "dealer only" thing? If I am on vacation changing a fuse or connecting the AX 6000 is easy, going to the dealer is not. I worry too much, thanks TDR! :-laf I may just re-join triple A RV gold plus, whatever, and not worry about anything.



Coming soon: B&W hitch, running boards, auxilliary fuel filter, etc. , etc. I need another job.

 

[steved]

I read something somewhere about CB radios causing a problem, can't remember what it was all about exactally, so I used shielded wire for my power connections and heavy duty coax for the antenna.



CD

The only thing I read was how it affected the Quad box and that caused problems... I don't think it bothers trucks without a box...



I'm pushing almost 300 watts and the only thing that happens is the seatbelt light flickers!



steved

 

[Axekicker]

Quad has since fixed the problem... I sent my box back to them and they did the "update" and I haven't had any problems since.

 

[steved]

Quad has since fixed the problem... I sent my box back to them and they did the "update" and I haven't had any problems since.

But didn't they say it was only good for something like 75 watts??



Glad you got that sorted out...



steved

 

[Axekicker]

But didn't they say it was only good for something like 75 watts??



Glad you got that sorted out...



steved

I guess I'll find out after I locate and install a 150 watt linear... :-laf