Cummins 6.7 replacing 5.9!

[CATCRACKER]

i am looking at agco tractors and the RT series engines are being converted from 3. 9 and 5. 9 cummins to 4. 4 and 6. 7 cummins. could we see this 6. 7l in a dodge? i think with emissions getting tighter maybe they can get the 350hp out of this engine without having to fuel it so heavily like they are having to do with the 5. 9. would a 6. 7L fit in a dodge? probably not maybe this will be in the new crew cab dodge... who knows but i thought this would get you guys thinking also. there was a rumor a while back that cummins was coming out with a new engine with larger displacment to replace the old trusty 5. 9..... it looks to be coming true or at least as far as farming and industrial equipment go!!!! some of you gurus figure out how much more space would be needed in the engine compartment to make this engine fit.



things that make you go hmmmm??????



your comments please.



a side note are agco any good i know they own massey but i had never heard of one hear in the south since all these farmers down here use is case and john deere

 

[d90boy]

Two words for you:



John Deere



As much as I love Cummins engines I wouldn't get anything but.

 

[ndurbin]

Agco owns a whole bunch of companies in the ag industry. White, Massey, Cat (ag division), and some other short line companies. Recently Cat released awhole line of equipment and "wheeled" tractors, their basically Agco equipment painted yellow. Case, International, and New Holland are the same thing anymore. John Deere hasn't bought any major ag equipment companies but they do own some short line equipment companies like Frontier. There are several foreign companies out there, Fendt is one that comes to my mind right now but there are others. Then there are several lesser known brands like Buhler (which manf. the old Case 4WDs and New Holland row crop tractors).



There are several good tractors out there made by different companies. All just depends on what your going to use it for.



Nathan

 

[bmoeller]

Originally posted by ndurbin

Buhler (which manf. the old Case 4WDs and New Holland row crop tractors).

Buhler= Versatile, not Case.

 

[amillstream]

When I was looking for another tractor a couple of years ago, I looked and priced about everything within driving distance of me. Dollar for dollar, I couldn't see getting anything but a Massey. The same tractor in a Deere was going to cost 10-15,000 dollars more. Also there are 3 Massey dealers within 45 minutes of here. A neighbor has run a couple of Masseys just like mine for 6 or 7 years now and very few problems.

 

[Big_Daddy_T]

Is there room to increase the bore or stroke on our current block.

 

[CougFan]

I dont care for John Deere myself or Massey, but ussually the best place to get your tractors etc. . seems to be wherever the best dealer is. I prefer Case IH and CAT but thats because thats what Ive been around.

 

[ndurbin]

Versitile was bought by Ford which inturn was bought by New Holland... ... ... ... ... . which later down the road turned into Case/New Holland.



Not argueing with ya, I just made a mistake. The old New Holland 4WDs (I think it was the 88 series or something like that, just before they merged with Case) look alot like the new Buhler tractors.



Nathan

 

[JHayward]

The QSB 6. 7 is a stroked 5. 9. The QSB is 4. 0x4. 7, the QSB is 4. 0x5. 4. The QSB 6. 7 also uses a "structural block" to support the tractor's weight. Would be pretty cool to have a longer stroke ISB in the Ram though.

 

[JHerr]

What was the diesel in Dodge's Power Wagon show truck a few years ago? Remember, it appeared at the '01(?) Detroit Auto Show, was silver and had retro styling to resemble the old Power Wagons?



I think it had a 7. 2 liter diesel. I know its just a truck for PR purposes but I wonder what the basic block was? Was it a 5. 9 both bored and stroked?

 

[bmoeller]

One of their show vehicles had a Cat diesel in it. If it is the same one I'm thinking of, it would be a 3126.

 

[Jff24Gordn]

it was a CAT runnin off of LP.

 

[RGardner]

JD costs more going in but usually has a better resale value. When case & new holland merged they had to give up the versatile line and the nh large row crop tractors. Buhler bought both lines. Personally i have had both JD and Ford/NH tractors and had good luck with both. A good dealer does make lots of difference!

 

[GO 4LO]

Originally posted by JHayward

The QSB 6. 7 is a stroked 5. 9. The QSB is 4. 0x4. 7, the QSB is 4. 0x5. 4. The QSB 6. 7 also uses a "structural block" to support the tractor's weight. Would be pretty cool to have a longer stroke ISB in the Ram though.

Are you positive on this? Is there a way to find some more info? I've been thinking about stroking a 5. 9 but am still unsure as to whether it's a good idea... Thanks.

Chris

 

[JHayward]

GO 4LO,



Based on the published data, this is so. Do a search on Cummins 6. 7L and you will find lots of new data on this in the Ag application, as well as some info on the bore and stroke. Let me know if you have trouble and I will dig out the infe next week for you.

 

[Greenleaf]

Dodge will have to bring back the flying brick ie the 1st gen body style in order to get a bigger engine in the Dodge truck Oo.



I cant see getting any more stuff down in that hole referred to as the "engine compartment".



When I tire from adjusting the valves, I curl up under the hood and take a nap



-S

 

[nickleinonen]

not sure about the displacment increase, but in the latest issue of north american diesel progress magazine, there is a few page write up about some of cummins' new tier 3 engines, and the new QSB5. 9 has no egr system yet...

 

[EBottema]

5. 9 is just good enough guys. lol 6. 7 would be okay though