Curt Better Weigh

[Tunnel Vision]

Has anyone tried the Curt better weigh towing scale with the factor rear air ride?

 

[NIsaacs]

Did you see this part?

Notes:

• Will not work on diesel trucks manufactured before 2004 due to OBD-II regulations.
• Will have limited functionality on vehicles with auto-leveling suspension.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Has anyone tried the Curt better weigh towing scale with the factor rear air ride?

Curious what reason you need to know the weight?

 

[Tunnel Vision]

Yes I have seen the part and bought it knowing I will have limited functionally because of the air ride. I need to know the weight because I have a 14k dump trailer that I use to haul top soil 150 miles and have lost three tires so far. I figure if I could know the weight as I load it I could eliminate the tire issue.

 

[AH64ID]

Limited to zero functionality. It senses squat, which doesn't exist on auto-level trucks. Don't waste your money.

Even if it did work you still won't know the weight on the trailer axles, just the tongue weight. My experience with dump trailers being loaded at gravel pits/nurseries is that the tongue weight is different every time based on load location.

Get better tires for the dump trailer and use standard weight per yard, then ask for slightly less that you're rated for. It seems you always get a little more weight/materiel than you should.

 

[Tuesdak]

Adding to the above:
SPEED??? Are you running over 65 MPH? (The MAX rating of most ST tires.)
AGE OF TIRES that failed?
What kind of tires? LT or ST?
Brand?

 

[Tunnel Vision]

Adding to the above:
SPEED??? Are you running over 65 MPH? (The MAX rating of most ST tires.)
AGE OF TIRES that failed?
What kind of tires? LT or ST?
Brand?

I am running between 55-60 mph and they are brand new ST tires, Brand "Diamonback".

 

[Tunnel Vision]

Limited to zero functionality. It senses squat, which doesn't exist on auto-level trucks. Don't waste your money.

Even if it did work you still won't know the weight on the trailer axles, just the tongue weight. My experience with dump trailers being loaded at gravel pits/nurseries is that the tongue weight is different every time based on load location.

Get better tires for the dump trailer and use standard weight per yard, then ask for slightly less that you're rated for. It seems you always get a little more weight/materiel than you should.

So you have on your truck?

 

[AH64ID]

So you have on your truck?

No, I wouldn’t waste my money on it for my auto-level as it can’t pick up squat.

 

[SnoKing]

Adding to the above:
SPEED??? Are you running over 65 MPH? (The MAX rating of most ST tires.)
AGE OF TIRES that failed?
What kind of tires? LT or ST?
Brand?

Sounds like me should get the Sailun all steel ply S637 LRG tires. https://simpletire.com/paid?brand=s...tm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=&v=1

 

[NIsaacs]

Yes I have seen the part and bought it knowing I will have limited functionally because of the air ride. I need to know the weight because I have a 14k dump trailer that I use to haul top soil 150 miles and have lost three tires so far. I figure if I could know the weight as I load it I could eliminate the tire issue.

Is the dump bumper pull or gooseneck? Dirt will weigh 2k per yard, assuming your dump is 7'x14'x2', water level is 7.25 yards. So about 5 yards, is your max loaded weight. Empty trailer is about 4.5k.

 

[Turbo Terry]

When I hauled a dirt dump trailer last summer the guy that loaded watched the properly inflated tires as they squated while he loaded I said more dirt he said no it’s enough. .But I never hauled it 150 mile either. High speeds just seem to kill trailer tires also for some reason.

 

[Tunnel Vision]

No, I wouldn’t waste my money on it for my auto-level as it can’t pick up squat.

So you have tried it?

 

[AH64ID]

So you have tried it?

No, I understand how it works and how the auto-level works. If you correlate those two it makes sense why they say there is limited performance from it. It will get some data from the OBD-II but not enough to give you what you’re hoping for.

Put the money into better tires, and solve the problem better and more long term. Personally I’d find an ST tire to run.

 

[Cummins12V98]

Load range E GY ENDURANCE will do the job with a 75mph speed rating and a stellar record.

 

[Tunnel Vision]

No, I understand how it works and how the auto-level works. If you correlate those two it makes sense why they say there is limited performance from it. It will get some data from the OBD-II but not enough to give you what you’re hoping for.

Put the money into better tires, and solve the problem better and more long term. Personally I’d find an ST tire to run.

So you don't know for sure, your just guessing it won't work. Thanks for the info.

 

[AH64ID]

So you don't know for sure, your just guessing it won't work. Thanks for the info.

The company that makes it tells you that it won’t fully work… But it’s your money

I’ve also done plenty of research on them in the past to know it won’t work as intended on auto-level and isn’t worth the money.

Better tires are your best bet, followed by a hitch that measures tongue weight and working with the loaders for a uniform load so you can better estimate your weight.

Have you towed the loaded trailer across any scales?

 

[SnoKing]

Load range E GY ENDURANCE will do the job with a 75mph speed rating and a stellar record.

At 14K I would go with LRG tires. The GY Endurance is most likely best E rate ST tire, however if it was my trailer it would have the Sailun LRG all steel tires on it.

 

[AH64ID]

At 14K I would go with LRG tires. The GY Endurance is most likely best E rate ST tire, however if it was my trailer it would have the Sailun LRG all steel tires on it.

We ran Sailun LRG tires on our 14K horse trailer (7K axles) for many years and had decent luck with them, but the sidewalls were too stiff and susceptible to puncture with how we used it. Had we not put so many miles on nasty rocky USFS roads we likely would have ran them again, and are probably the best choice for the OP. There are some GY Endurance sizes with the proper LI for a 7K axle, but the LRG tires would be better.

We don’t need the 14K rating so dropping to ST235/85R16 was the easy choice to gain better back road life.

 

[Tuesdak]

I am running between 55-60 mph and they are brand new ST tires, Brand "Diamonback".

As speed is not a factor you ran into defective tires or you are way overloaded. If warranty is left or refund available I suggest you get them exchanged for an LT tire like above recommendation of the Sailun LRG or like I use Michelin XPS RIB.

Although the GY Endurance is highly rated my 5th wheel ate them for lunch and it only has a 13K GVWR. (They did not separate or blow out, but, the tread was weirdly cracking at the lugs and, as usual, wearing fast.) I had removed aged out Michelin LT tires for the GY. After the warranty I put the XPS RIB on and no trouble since. Only E rated though. They have a XPS Traction if you need that. https://business.michelinman.com/tires/michelin-xps-rib

^^^ Night and day over a lightweight ST tire. A step above normal LT tires as well with a steel casing. I believe a couple other manufactures make a similar product.