D-350 rear brake question

[Wayno]

I thought I heard rumor one time that there was a rear brake set up to fix the drums on the first gen. so you could remove the drum without taking the hub off . Anybody know of such or tried doing this before . I gonna have to do a rear brake job on my dually and I know that I am going to have to replace the drums .

 

[dpuckett]

I think some of the newer ones have outboard drums (pre 01. 5 rear discs). As far as I know, all first gens had inboard drums, though- have to remove the hub and all. But at least you'll know you have new seals. It would require new hubs, drums, etc to go to an outboard setup. My 88 Ford had outboard drums, though. Nice. Too bad it had a 7. 3

 

[Wayno]

Originally posted by dpuckett

I It would require new hubs, drums, etc to go to an outboard setup. My 88 Ford had outboard drums, though. Nice. Too bad it had a 7. 3

I know it would . Thats what I need to know . Has anyone done that . I thought someone said some time back that someone had a kit to make the drums slide off like the newer trucks and like the ford . My drums are shot so either way I got to buy drums .

 

[Wayno]

Well I did the search thing and there was a post about a member that had went to the dealer to buy new rear drums and now you have to buy a new hub and a drum and the new set up will let you slide the drum off the hub like the newer trucks . Anybody know anything about this ????????? Does anybody know if this can be bought somewhere else besides the dealer ????????

 

[1stgen4evr]

Rear drums

Hummmm



My brother's 98 has the outboard drums and it is certainly nice when it is time to service the shoes. Often the seals are not leaking only the brake work needs to be done. The whole thing is easier to service even when doing the seals anyway as the drums are off and the hubs are not so heavy to handle.



This is an item that the big rigs have used for many years now. Dana was a bit later in adopting it across the board. I had a Studebaker about a million years ago that had outboard drums. They weren't much better because they had countersunk screws holding the drums to the hubs and the screws rusted fast to the hubs and wouldn't come out.



I have a friend that is a NAPA store manager. If such an animal exist in captivity, he will find out. I will post an answer.



1stgen4evr

James

 

[Wayno]

I had the local independent parts store in my town check on this . The parts man there has been a parts man all his life and he is over 60 years of age . He could not come up with anything . I call'd Sam Peterson and he didn't know anything about this either . I am going to check with the local dealer here and see if I can get some part numbers and my parts man will see if he can do something . I found the post about this in the archives back in 9-1-2000.

 

[Wayno]

Well has any one went to the dealer and bought the rear brake drum assembly part number 53007766 . The parts man at the dealer does not know if the drum will slide of the hub . It cost $329. 00 for the hub and drum assembly but you can get just the drum for $225. 00 . The part number on the D- 250 drum has been change to another number for some reason . His book show'd that a D-350 dually could have a light (Dyna 60 ) or a heavy duty (Dyna 70 ) rear end . My truck shows to have a Dyna 70 .

 

[RSchwarzli]

Wayno,



I'm off subject, but, NICE TRUCK!!:--) Oo. :--)



Robert

 

[1stgen4evr]

Outboard drums

I have hit a wall. No information anywhere. Hopefully someone who has done this change can fill us in as to the new style drums. Looks like a dealer somewhere would get into these discussions. Fact is if I was in the market for a new truck, I would not buy one from a dealer that didn't belong to TDR.



Love My Cummins

1stgen4evr

James McPherson

 

[Wayno]

Originally posted by BSchwarzli

Wayno,



I'm off subject, but, NICE TRUCK!!:--) Oo. :--)



Robert

Thanks.

 

[Wayno]

Re: Outboard drums

Originally posted by 1stgen4evr

I have hit a wall. No information anywhere. Hopefully someone who has done this change can fill us in as to the new style drums. Looks like a dealer somewhere would get into these discussions. Fact is if I was in the market for a new truck, I would not buy one from a dealer that didn't belong to TDR.



Love My Cummins

1stgen4evr

James McPherson

The dealer I went to is going to make a call to the plant that makes the drums and see what he can find out . I will call him in a few days and see if he found out anything .

 

[Wayno]

Just to let yall know it can be done on a 3/4 ton but not a 1 ton . Dodge does make a drum and hub to let you just remove the drum to replace the shoes . The Dealer I talk to said you can get this kit to do a 1 ton single wheel Dodge van with a Dyna 70 in it . I think what the problem is on the Dual wheel trucks are the inter locking wheels but I am wondering if you could use the sec. gen. wheels on the new hub anyway thats what I have learn.

 

[1stgen4evr]

drum/wheel compatibility

I am running some late model (96) wheels on my D350 dually 93. They fit the hub well enough that they don't wobble up and down. I did have to ream them to the larger size lug dia. I have had no problems with them. I wonder about the later 80 hubs. Could they be retrofitted to the 70 with a different bearing? Would the drive axle fit. Anyone tried that? What I really want is an 80 on the first gen. Money is a bit tight. Have to get up the money to pay Uncle Sam before the 15th. Maybe later this summer.



I just bought an 89 D250. I am learning the differences. Think I am going to like the truck, if I can keep it from the wife.



Thanks Wayno for the followup.



1stgen4evr

James