DC police and man on tractor

[TowPro]

Did you guys read this! Look at the pictures, I would guess thats a 10,000 lb tractor?



The incident began around noon Monday when a man wearing a military medic's helmet drove a jeep and trailer carrying the tractor and a motorcycle into Constitution Gardens, a federal park bordered by the Washington Monument, the Vietnam War Memorial and the Lincoln Memorial. After driving the jeep into the lake, the man drove the tractor off the trailer and into the water.



I can't Imagen any jeep made that would tow that tractor.

 

[MCummings]

???



Picture/link is missing?

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

Tractor dude





Here it is, That jeep didn't pull that tractor, no way



Check out the slide show on the left of the page

 

[jwdeeming]

Here's a good idea - go to the nation's capital, while the threat level is at orange - and claim to be carting a tractorload of ammonium nitrate.



I don't think this boy's been farming tobacco...

 

[QRTRHRS]

Originally posted by TowPro I would guess thats a 10,000 lb tractor

Closer to 20,000, eh illflem?

 

[Shovelhead]

I'm very aware of this situation as this moron has screwed up my commute for two days.



Question:

Where in the heck do you put enough amonium nitrate on a John Deere tractor to be a valid threat to anything/anyone in a park that's about 4 blocks wide by 10 blocks long?





Ed

 

[Rman]

what point, other than the fact he is a complete moron, is he trying to get across? That is one big tractor, that jeep may have gotten it rolling, but not for long.

 

[TowPro]

Thats what I was thinking. No room for a barrel inside there, and if the stuff was just laying in the cab the smell of diesel would have gagged him by now.

Originally posted by Shovelhead



Question:

Where in the heck do you put enough amonium nitrate on a John Deere tractor to be a valid threat to anything/anyone in a park that's about 4 blocks wide by 10 blocks long?





Ed

 

[lmills]

Yeah this guy has been screwing up traffic long enough.

 

[Mike Ellis]

Only place feasible to store ANFO on that rig would be inside the tires, they are big enough you could have a big kaboom. Or maybe several smaller kabooms knit together as the tires went up domino style. Not sure if the guys using barrels need individual detonators or just let the first one to go cascade the others.



Some folks put liquid in their tractor tires to make them heavier so it is not that far-fetched.

 

[Shovelhead]

Originally posted by Mike Ellis

Only place feasible to store ANFO on that rig would be inside the tires, they are big enough you could have a big kaboom. Or maybe several smaller kabooms knit together as the tires went up domino style. Not sure if the guys using barrels need individual detonators or just let the first one to go cascade the others.



Some folks put liquid in their tractor tires to make them heavier so it is not that far-fetched.

No offence ment Mike, but the guy doesn't seem that bright.

 

[JohnE]

Here's my take on the issue:



A broke tobacco farmer driving a $40k tractor is complaining the government subsidies aren't enough to keep his farming operation going.



Give me a break!

 

[Sled Puller]

""However, Watson reportedly said he's going to get his message out or die trying. And he vows he won't surrender.

""



Fair enough... ... . bang.



No time for games, moron boy.

 

[illflem]

That turkey would have had to drive that tractor on the road to get it there, too wide for a trailer without running folks off the road.

I used to experiment with AN/diesel bombs in my teenage years. Just one detonator is enough to set off several containers if they are stacked close enough together. My biggest was a 55 gallon drum bomb, blew a hole about 20 feet round and ten feet deep to bedrock in the back forty. Found pieces of the barrel half mile away. Would have done better if the drum was buried or had a car parked on top of it, most of the explosion went upwards. Detonated it with one cherry bomb with a long fuse.

Then I went to Vietnam and lost interest in explosions.

Nowadays you have to show ID to buy AN and it has microscopic "tags" in each pellet to show where it came from.

Good ol' days are gone.

 

[Kickin Y2K]

That jeep didn't pull that tractor, no way

Would you believe I have a photo of that same model "jeep" (mobile utility tactical truck to be technical ) towing a railroad boxcar! Of course it only did 5mph, but pulled it nearly 1/4 of a mile. I'll dig through my stuff and see if I can find it and scan it.

 

[jrobinson2]

I cant tell for sure if thats a 6000 or 7000 series JD, my 7800 weighs just over 16k with duals and full weights w/o a loader. BTW JohnE my '92 7800 with over 6500 hrs is worth 40k,and would cost 100k to 115 k new depending on exact size and options.

Jared

 

[bmoeller]

Originally posted by JohnE

Here's my take on the issue:



A broke tobacco farmer driving a $40k tractor is complaining the government subsidies aren't enough to keep his farming operation going.



Give me a break!

Thats a 8000 or 8020 series tractor, 130k+ before counting the loader.



EDIT: OOPS! Got a better look of the tractor from the slide show, it is a 7000 or 7010 series tractor.

 

[Rman]

Originally posted by JohnE

Here's my take on the issue:



A broke tobacco farmer driving a $40k tractor is complaining the government subsidies aren't enough to keep his farming operation going.



Give me a break!

you guys don't know much about farming do ya.

 

[midwestdually]

in now way shape or form did that jeep pull that tractor... . more like the tractor pulled the jeep on the trailer... . you would need a lowboy for that tractor... and a semi to haul it... if a jeep can pull that much weight ... then i am goin to my local jeep dealership to buy 20 of them!

 

[JohnE]

Originally posted by rhickman

you guys don't know much about farming do ya.

OK, I quoted bankruptcy auction pricing on the tractor. I assumed it wasn't new.



If you meant that literally... .

Got a farm in the family and grew up in a JD dealership. I live in farming country.



It still chaps my hide that businesses go bankrupt everyday and few people care.

But call that business a farm and we're supposed to feel sorry for the schmuck?

Farming is a business the same as the small bookstore or hardware store on the corner that couldn't compete against the big stores and failed.

Don't glamorize it because of the profession/product.



Tobacco farming really chaps my hide. It is one of the hardest manual labor crops to raise and it not NOT a food stuff.

The government has subsidized tobacco farming WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS for a long time and then turns around and taxes the killer products produced from this crop. On top of it all, it supports lawsuits against the companies that produce killer products.

If you want to continue farming, find a viable product that is easier to raise and brings fair market price.



Foul you cry?

Why are there profitable peanut farmers that receive NO subsidies?



Both my brother and sister are self employed and rely on NO direct tax dollar giveaways to support their businesses. I did stipulate direct as some of their customers may be subsidized.