DD or EZ who has one

[mmeyn]

I need some opinions for a 2001. 5 6spd 4x4 quad cab, pulling 10000 a couple times a week and lots of running around. Got the gauges, getting ready to pull the muffler off and strait pipe it. So what is the big difference in the two.

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2001 HO Cummings QC 4x4 Long bed, 6spd 3:55 limited slip

 

[bpete]

Not much difference. The DD is designed for the eth and DDIIIs, Otherwise either will work.
Brant

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01 Excab 4x4 Driftwood, agate interior, Potect grilleguard, DeeZee FX black, Weatherguard crossbox, Montezuma tool box, Honda air compressor, fold down g/n hitch.

Geno's pillar mount combo guage, deactivated wastegate, custom exhaust, 5"
chrom tip, PE EZ, Hot PE box, DDIIs, Dunrite TC, Transgo shift kit, and K&N air filter.

Performance Diesel Dealer

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

mikejr93, anytime someone talks about their Cummings engine it reminds me of an ex-girlfriend (Jeanine Cummings) #ad
. Reminders of her do not bring back fond memories. . . lose the G so the CUMMINS name strikes all the RIGHT vibes in my blood #ad


Vaughn

 

[WileyCoyote]

I have both the DD module and the EZ module.

They appear identical in every way on the outside. Obviously made by the same factory.

I cannot tell them apart in performance on the mildest of the three settings. I have not tried the more aggressive settings. Maybe they have different timing maps, but I cannot determine any difference.

My impression in dealing with both vendors who are very polite after trying both is that the EZ is relabelled to become a DD.

The DD is a better price, especially if you want a KN air filter. DD also offers 20% to TDR members.

Hope this helps.

Harry

 

[RobG]

I have a DD 4" exhaust and an EZ. Great combo.

Rob


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2001. 5 RAM 3500 QC 4x4 ETH/DEE Silver/Agate 4. 10 USGear OD, Rickson 19. 5 Wheels, Edge EZ, SPA Guages, Psychotty, Firestone Airbags, Hellwig Rear Swaybar, Torklift Superhitch & Camper Tiedowns, Mag-Hytec Diff Cover, DD 4" Exhaust, US Gear Exhaust Brake, etc.

 

[mmeyn]

now I am confused on what to go with DD, EZ or injectors. if one had to pick which one would you go with. and where is the cheapest place to pick this stuff up??

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2001 HO Cummings QC 4x4 Long bed, 6spd 3:55 limited slip, Isspro boost and post pyro, husky bedliner, western diesel AF,

 

[Bigsaint]

I think the bottom line is what you will add after the box, the EZ is great alone, the DD box will help provide less smoke if you add injectors later. Sure, you could just add some injectors and forget the box, but you may have an egt concern later while towing as you can't make enough boost to keep the egt's down. For ease of installment/removal and higher boost readings, the EZ install Vs the injector install is a no brainer, the EZ takes about 10 minutes to install, the injectors will take a while longer. You have to remember, the DD box is the same as the EZ, except the jumper settings differ to accomodate the addition of high HP injectors.
You can purchase the DD box here, don't forget to mention the 20% discount for TDR members.
http://www.dieseldynamics.com/

For the Edge EZ, try here. I can tell you that Nowel(HVAC) has great customer service.
http://www.performancediesel. bigstep.com/category.html?UCIDs=578092%7C580543

Scott W.

White 2001. 5 3500 ETH/DEE 4X4 Quad cab SLT,tow package and camper prep,Husky liners front and rear,DiPricol pyro,boost and oil temp gauges,Edge EZ,Psychotty air,Bully Dog stage III injectors,ATS 3 piece manifold,HX40 turbo,4" BD exhaust,4" BD E-brake,McLeod clutch,Mallory 4150 lift pump,Mag-Hytec rear,Mopar tonneau,Lund bug shield,PM tractor utility back up lights,Penda bed mat and blow by bottle is bye bye !!! I love the smell of diesel in the morning, it reminds me of... . VICTORY !!!
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[LSMITH]

Mike, the bang for the buck is a lot bigger with the box than it is with stage one or stage two injectors. I have not had any experience with the stage three injectors so I don't know what they are like. My vote is to get the box and at some point you can get some injectors to really put some power down. DD advertises that the DD TTPM and stage one injectors makes 304 HP and 635 torque. If you have not driven a truck with that kind of power, you are in for a real treat.

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99 2500 QC 4X4 AUTO SB 24V LARAMIE SLT 3. 5 LSD 285-75-16'S SPA Boost/EGT Everything but leather NRA Member Great Lakes TDR Member

 

[Fred Swanson]

Mike, the EZ is a great box, and makes the most power increase under 2500RPM's. It has a big torque increase, which makes driving your Cummins fun.
I e-mailed you with information on the EZ.

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Fred Swanson
Co-Owner
Canyon State Components, LLC
www.canyonstatecomponents.com

'00 QC,SB,4x4,Auto,3. 54 w/LSD,Trailer Package, Tow Package, DTT's VB & TC

[This message has been edited by cscpusher (edited 03-07-2001). ]

 

[Mopar-muscle]

the DD box is made by edge , it has different jumper settings and lawerence specified timing and fuel curves to work well with DD injectors . what i like about the DD version is it has a timing ONLY setting where the edge i believe has added fueling in all jumper settings . the timing only is the key to reduced smoke with bigger injectors , this is my biggest complaint with the VA , the fueling added , even with 275's it will smoke at lo boost and my mileage dropped some , about . 5 mpg , but the kick it gives more than makes up for the decrease #ad
#ad
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i will be switching from the VA to a DDTTM (their EZ version) . i think the timing only will give a mileage boost and thats why i bought this thing to begin with .

 

[mmeyn]

Are the injectors in the ETC the same as the ETH and if so is there anything that can be done to them to get them to perform better?? I had heard they can be milled out or somthing to get more fuel out of them?

 

[Mopar-muscle]

mike , the term is extrude hone , a slurry is pushed thru the nozzle to make the holes bigger , on my stock ones you can't see the holes with the naked eye , i can see them on my dd3's though #ad
... as far as them being the same between the ETC and ETH , i doubt it . if you want bigger injectors you have to buy them , from someone , you can't modify yours yourself , easily and cheaply anyway

 

[PAYCHECK]

Diesel Injection Service has the edge ez on sale for 515. 00. # is 1 800 658 9355. or www.dieselpage.com #ad




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01 2500HD Q. C. 4X4,241HD,SLT+, SB,3. 54,5spd,jacobs e-brake,tow pack,camper pack,all black,all leather,fully loaded,htd power mirrors,htd seats,full rhino lining bed and rocker panels,265/85r16 BFG ATs ko,nerf bars,everthing black,4'' Jardine,Westach boost & EGT gauge,

 

[1BIG44]

Is the DDTTM adjustable on the fly?

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2001 Quad Cab 4x4 ETH

 

[work2muchplay2little]

Hi y'all. New member. Been lurking around for a while, long enough to be infected with the BOMBing bug anyway, decided it was 'bout time to make an "investment". I've owned my truck for about a year, and it's amazing how slow it's become since I've been reading here... ;-)!

Regarding the boost and fueling boxes: Are the HP additions provided by these boxes additive? eg. PE EZ + PE = 155HP added? Since Edge Products is releasing a combination of the two, I thought this might be the case. Does the TST Powermax 3 basically function the same as the PE EZ + EZ or more like just the PE?

I know it's been said before but this forum's members are tops!!

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1999 2500 24VCTD AUTO 4x4 QC LB Laramie SLT Luverne stainless steel nerf bars, 3 piece bug deflector, mopar mud flaps, unBOMBed... . yet

 

[Ram4Sam]

44, the DD module is not adjustable on the fly. You have to open it and move a jumper wire. There is a timing only, timing plus fuel after 3 lbs of boost for stock injectors, and timing plus fuel after 20 lbs of boost for trucks w/bigger injectors.

Sam

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2001. 5 2500 QC HO 6sp LB 3. 54LS everything except leather, white/agate 2wd,Isspro guauges on the A,ME kit,DD Tru torque module,WD air filter


Fordaholic-clean and Mopar'd since 10/05/00

[This message has been edited by Ram4Sam (edited 03-09-2001). ]

 

[1BIG44]

Thanks Ram4Sam,
That's what I wanted to know. If that new Edge box ever comes out that sounds like the ticket for me.

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2001 Quad Cab 4x4 ETH

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

The way I understand it is these figures would be max fuel at these boost levels. Am I correct on this?

Kent

 

[Kent Kuykendall]

Originally posted by work2muchplay2little:
Does the TST Powermax 3 basically function the same as the PE EZ + EZ or more like just the PE?
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This is the question that I want to hear the answer for as well.

Kent