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Archived 2003 won't start

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I posted the following in the 3rd Gen section last night:



After a few months with no problems, my truck drained the batteries overnight again. I believe that the draw is a little above 10 amps, since it killed 2 multimeters that were 10 amp max. I also held fuses across the terminal and post and blew a 5 amp, but not a 15. Being a "Southern" engineer at heart, I then formulated the spark method. I methodically disconnected wires and pulled fuses and circuit breakers until there was no sparks when I brushed the negative terminal against the post. I would highly recommend that you NOT use the spark method, since I may have smoked the electronics, but I was on a mission.



I have, so far, traced the draw to the dark green wire with a white trace that is connected to a blue 18 gauge fusible link that is connected to the stud feeding the fuse box or, as they now call it, the integrated power module. This wire is directly connected to the battery, protected by the fusible link, and goes to the engine control module(ECM). I have not attempted to start the truck or read the codes since I have recharged the batteries to try to keep from resetting the problem for it to only reappear in another few days, weeks or months. Last time, I had the cooling fan speed code, which I can't recall the number just now, and replaced the electric clutch on the cooling fan. Then I revelled in my trouble shooting skills until late last week. :{



So here I am, looking for ideas, encouragement or any other form of divine wisdom. Maybe the name of a good auto electric shop in the greater Atlanta area. :eek:




No real updates, I am going to start looking at the wires and pull the ECM plugs off to see if I can isolate the problem.
 
Hopefully you did not smoke anything in your "spark" test.

Go buy a amp meter that clamps around the battery + cable or the primary feed to the PDC.

With the key off, you are supposed to get 0 - 250 mA draw. If it is indeed pulling >10A then you start pulling fuses in both the engine compartment PDC and cab fuse panel until you isolate the circuit that has the draw. There is only one circuit that has no fuse protection and that is your starter.

READ - Ampmeter reads 12A, you pull the fuse for the grid heater, the ampmeter drops to 100mA, ergo your problem is in the circuit the feeds the grid heater.
 
Hopefully you did not smoke anything in your "spark" test.



Go buy a amp meter that clamps around the battery + cable or the primary feed to the PDC.



With the key off, you are supposed to get 0 - 250 mA draw. If it is indeed pulling >10A then you start pulling fuses in both the engine compartment PDC and cab fuse panel until you isolate the circuit that has the draw. There is only one circuit that has no fuse protection and that is your starter.



READ - Ampmeter reads 12A, you pull the fuse for the grid heater, the ampmeter drops to 100mA, ergo your problem is in the circuit the feeds the grid heater.



Actually, I have found a number of circuits that are only protected by a fusible link and directly connected to the battery. Such as the alternator, Grid heaters and my new friend, the green/white ECM positive feed wire. I found a $50 multitester at Sears that will read 20 amps. As I mentioned, I have already pulled all the fuses and the offending circuit/wire is a fusible link that feeds the ECM, which feeds the fan speed, accelerator pedal position sensor, crank sensor ignition switch output, brake switch sensor, sensor supply and park lockout solenoid control. I sure hope it is before the ECM. If not, sounds like I will be checking a lot of sensors. :( If any of the ECM outputs are fused, then it should be before the fuse since I have pulled all of them and still have a draw. I'm betting a chaffed wire and hoping it isn't in the ECM:eek:.



Thanks,



Pete
 
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