Dealer first oil change

[lschultz]

Took my 2020 Ram Diesel in for its first free oil change. Ticket shows they put in 10W30. They say this is what they put in the 20-21 Rams now. They say it is synthetic oil Mopar brand. Think I might go back to doing my own oil changes or get my son to do it . He said it is a little harder to get the filter out on the 2020 compared to the 2019 he had. And they still have the TPS on backorder. Front two stopped working bout a month after it got it. The several months ago one of the front started working and now it stopped agin. So far no problems out of the rear ones although they are not accurate compared to what tire gauges show. Every truck I have had since they started putting them own I have had problems. My sons 2020 he had not had any problems with his yet.

 

[Ozymandias]

What says the manual about oil quality, or the fill cap?

 

[brucejohnson]

From the 2020 Owner's Manual - Diesel Engines:

Engine Oil Viscosity — Diesel Engine In ambient temperatures above 0°F (-18°C), we recommend you use SAE 10W-30 engine oil such as Mopar, Shell Rotella and Shell Rimula that meets FCA Material Standard MS-10902 and the API CK-4 engine oil category is required. Products meeting Cummins CES 20081 may also be used. The identification of these engine oils is typically located on the back of the oil container. In ambient temperatures below 0°F (-18°C), we recommend you use SAE 5W-40 synthetic engine oil such as Mopar, Shell Rotella and Shell Rimula that meets FCA Material Standard MS-10902 and the API CK-4 engine oil category is required.
CAUTION! Failure to use SAE 5W-40 synthetic engine oil in ambient temperatures below 0°F (-18°C) could result in severe engine damage.
Engine oil not designated by the FCA or Cummins Material Standards and API CK-4 should not be used, as engine and exhaust system durability may be compromised. The engine oil filler cap also shows the recommended engine oil viscosity for your engine. For information on engine oil filler cap location, refer to “Engine Compartment” in “Servicing And Maintenance” for further information. Synthetic Engine Oils You may use synthetic engine oils provided the recommended oil quality requirements are met, and the recommended maintenance intervals for oil and filter changes are followed. Synthetic engine oils which do not have both the engine oil certification mark and the correct SAE viscosity grade number should not be used.​

 

[AH64ID]

10w-30 or 5w-40.

15w-40 is not recommended and has allegedly caused issues with the lifters on 19+ motors.

 

[John Jensen]

Dealer was correct
Manual says 10w30 or below 0F 5w40 synthetic and okay to use 5w40 in all temps

 

[brucejohnson]

10w-30 or 5w-40.

15w-40 is not recommended and has allegedly caused issues with the lifters on 19+ motors.

Yep. They now have quiet hydraulic lifters in the 19+ engines.
Noisiest notable noise things from lowest to highest are the compression brake (kitten purr), open sun roof and the sweet wife.

 

[brucejohnson]

Took my 2020 Ram Diesel in for its first free oil change. Ticket shows they put in 10W30. They say this is what they put in the 20-21 Rams now. They say it is synthetic oil Mopar brand. Think I might go back to doing my own oil changes or get my son to do it . He said it is a little harder to get the filter out on the 2020 compared to the 2019 he had. And they still have the TPS on backorder. Front two stopped working bout a month after it got it. The several months ago one of the front started working and now it stopped agin. So far no problems out of the rear ones although they are not accurate compared to what tire gauges show. Every truck I have had since they started putting them own I have had problems. My sons 2020 he had not had any problems with his yet.

I started to let the dealership do my oil changes, mostly for convenience, as my body doesn't want to twist and maneuver as well as it used to. The cost difference is minimal if I catch the oil change specials; also, they have a great team that seem to do things "my way" without requiring influences from me, including using a torque wrench and clean-up.

 

[bcbender]

I will be using 5W-40 Syn exclusively. I also do not have alot of tolerance for the dealers and no "free" services so will be changing mine at 7500 with the fuel filter change prior to my summer trip... Chassis lift makes it alittle easier tho

 

[AH64ID]

I will be using 5W-40 Syn exclusively. I also do not have alot of tolerance for the dealers and no "free" services so will be changing mine at 7500 with the fuel filter change prior to my summer trip... Chassis lift makes it alittle easier tho

Why change the fuel filters at 7500?

Dirty filters are more efficient than clean filters, so run them the full 15K unless you get some bad fuel.

 

[Ltngdrvr]

All of them are going to 10w30, engines are being built with tighter tolerances as well as the new to Cummins hydraulic lifters, so the old standby 15w40 is a no go.
You will have to watch what any dealer or independent shop uses when letting them do your oil changes.

 

[bcbender]

Why change the fuel filters at 7500?

I will re-check the OM when I get back to my shop, but I thought it said 7500 mi fuel filter interval / 15k on the engine oil / filter. We had discussed in another thread about changing the engine oil early so I figured before I head to MT, I would put in fresh fluids and filters, I should be around that by then as I have 5200 now.

You will have to watch what any dealer or independent shop uses when letting them do your oil changes.

Exactly why I will do my own services as long as I can. My dad had a dealer strip the pan drain out and stick a plug in it, only to find out at the next dealer on a cross country trip ( oil change ) he needed a new oil pan... (old ford 460 gaser many years ago).. Ofcourse nobody had any memory of anything.

 

[bcbender]

Yup.. I mis read the schedule, so 15k it is.. I will change it in my log book, one less thing to do before heading west...

 

[lschultz]

Looking on Mopar site at list of lubricants the part number they had on the ticket shows the the oil to be Shell Rotella T4 semi synthetic 10W30. Dealer says that is what the 2020-2021 calls for. Shell is good oil but I will probably be switching it over to Amsoil later. My son has a 2020 now he does his own oil changes and he said comparing this one to his 2019 the oil filter is harder to get out. But he had his 2019 lifted so that gave him some more room. He said the rear fuel filter is easier to change than the 2019. I kinda lie brucejohnson the ole body don't bend and twist like it used to.

 

[Ltngdrvr]

Looking on Mopar site at list of lubricants the part number they had on the ticket shows the the oil to be Shell Rotella T4 semi synthetic 10W30. Dealer says that is what the 2020-2021 calls for. Shell is good oil but I will probably be switching it over to Amsoil later. My son has a 2020 now he does his own oil changes and he said comparing this one to his 2019 the oil filter is harder to get out. But he had his 2019 lifted so that gave him some more room. He said the rear fuel filter is easier to change than the 2019. I kinda lie brucejohnson the ole body don't bend and twist like it used to.

T4 is not semi-synthetic, it is straight Dino oil, T5 is the semi-synthetic version.
Either one is approved though.

 

[bcbender]

My 04 loved the T4 every 5k.... it had an affinity for Dino oil coming in from both ends.

but as stated its not syn.

 

[Ltngdrvr]

My 04 loved the T4 every 5k.... it had an affinity for Dino oil coming in from both ends.

but as stated its not syn.

Been running whatever is the cheapest name brand 15w40 dino oil at walmart. A couple of times I've splurged and bought 10 cases Valvoline premium blue dino oil when it was on sale. Think my truck has Mobil Delvac in it right now, was less than $11 a gallon. The delvac is nice because the bottles have large cap openings, makes it easier to pour the old oil back in for disposal.

 

[lschultz]

T4 is not semi-synthetic, it is straight Dino oil, T5 is the semi-synthetic version.
Either one is approved though.

My mistake thats what my brain was thinking but my fingers hit the wrong buttons.

 

[monovasia]

Rottella 15W-40 for my 2012 Cummins... straight oil, no synthetic...changing around 10-12k mile intervals

 

[Whitewolf]

Been using 5w-40 syn since about the second oil change. Change every 15K. I've got almost 165K on the clock and just ordered the oil and filters for the next change.

 

[Topzide]

Most important thing is to keep the fluids changed with recommended viscosity for the model year that you have. Use dino in mine and has had dino used in it since FIL bought it with 53K. I acquired it from him with 130K and now only at 153K with not major issues. I do the fluids and filters once a year or at 15K if i manage to hit that mark! Relocated the oil filter to under passenger side on frame with a bypass filter. Makes changing much easier! Built a skid plate to protect the setup from road debris! I know that I didn't need to add bypass filter, but since I had the setup prior to acquiring the truck, opted to put on to help with keeping the "blood" of the truck cleaner! Maintenance is very important to the life span of these trucks! Enjoy them, drive them and smile!!!!!!