Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Dealer Injection Install

[James2000]

Got my new injectors the other day, but I'm a little gunshy about doing install myself, seeing as I usually manage to screw up the smallest stuff. Anyway I give local Dealer a call and they tell me it's a 3 hour job! From the posts I've read it hasn't taken anyone in their garage at home more then 2 1/2 hours Not sure what to do? Is that really dealer book time? James

 

[JCarrell]

It only took me about an hour and 1/2... Very easy to do w/ the instructions i got on here... Scheid told me it was about a 2 hour job

 

[clong]

It took me about 2 hours to change mine out. If you can change a set of sparkplugs you can change your own injectors.

 

[WadePatton]

Find some nearby TDR folks to help you through the first time. It can be intimidating, but is very straightforward.

 

[RustyJC]

MDW (a confirmed 12 valve guy) and I installed a set of DD2's in my truck a couple of weekends ago - the first time either of us had changed injectors on a 24 valve. From start to finish, it probably took us 2. 5 hours. Having done it once, I'll bet we could beat that time by 1/2 to 1 hour now!



Rusty

 

[greyghost]

RMTDR

James,



I could possibly help ya out. I was thinking there might be another member in your neck of the woods as well. PM me if your interested. BTW I'm in Golden.



Garrett

 

[wlowe]

I found out the hard way that different dealers charge different amounts of time based on different books. My experience was with Toyota but I'm sure that Dodge is the same. Shop around before you spend your cash!



Bill

 

[Cummins4Life]

The first time I swapped it took me 4 hours. The last time was less than an hour. I have generic injector installation instructions from DD I can scan if you need them.

 

[rweis]

Me + myself + I + 3 hours. I read, re-read, torque EVERYTHING, took my time. Not much different than changing spark plugs. I used the DD instructions.



If you want, pm me and I will give you my ph # and will be available when you do it if you need to talk something over as it goes along.



Bob Weis

 

[d2500]

Dealer scams...

I had a Mustang in for service a few years back, and ended up confronting the service manager regarding the seemingly high estimate.



With a perfectly straight face, the manager told me that Ford allows them to charge up to 200% of the book time, and that's exactly what they do



Haven't had a dealer do any work on any of my vehicles since... .

 

[James2000]

Thanks for all the responses. I do have the DD install instructions, been reading and reading trying to get very familiar with them!Greyghost thanks for the offer I might take you up on it I want to check with local mechanic before I make decision.

By the way these are used injectors, should they be cleaned?Do I need new washers? Thanks James

 

[fj40charles]

Originally posted by James2000

Thanks for all the responses. I do have the DD install instructions, been reading and reading trying to get very familiar with them!Greyghost thanks for the offer I might take you up on it I want to check with local mechanic before I make decision.

By the way these are used injectors, should they be cleaned?Do I need new washers? Thanks James

James,



You should not need to clean them. Be careful not to touch the tips because you might end up plugging them up if you try to clean them. I would recommend you get new copper sealing washers from Cummins. The O ring should be fine to re-use.



If you're going to swap the injectors yourself, having a 17mm (I think) short wrench is very helpful.



Charles

 

[jmeehan]

Originally posted by fj40charles



If you're going to swap the injectors yourself, having a 17mm (I think) short wrench is very helpful.

19mm Charles , I just did mine at PDR's Dyno Day. 1 hour, while visiting, with experianced people telling me what to do.

Get yourself a 19mm shorty, or buy a cheap combo and cut it in two, #6 injector line is a little tuff to get at. The hardest part on mine was getting the rear engine lifting eye off, which is in the way of #6 injector line. Jeff

 

[Big White Beast]

By the instructions.......

The first time took me a little under two hours.



On the other truck I swapped them when someone experienced was with and we did it in under an hour. No need to yank the rear lifting eye. A stubby wrench can still get to it.



Have an extra air horn gasket available though in case it doesn't come off clean. Hate to see you stuck on a weekend for a $6 part.



Garrett

 

[jmeehan]

Re: By the instructions.......

Originally posted by Big White Beast

No need to yank the rear lifting eye. A stubby wrench can still get to it.

I guess I could have clarified that a little. I removed the rear lifting eye so I could push the injector lines out of the way, instead of removing them from the pump.

The stubby wrench is to get under the cowl.

 

[rweis]

Ditto on the air horn gasket.



Bob Weis

 

[fj40charles]

Originally posted by 85CJ

19mm Charles , I just did mine at PDR's Dyno Day. 1 hour, while visiting, with experianced people telling me what to do.

Get yourself a 19mm shorty, or buy a cheap combo and cut it in two, #6 injector line is a little tuff to get at. The hardest part on mine was getting the rear engine lifting eye off, which is in the way of #6 injector line. Jeff

Thanks for the correction... I knew I could count on you guys to keep me straight... .



I guess most folks who remove the engine lifting eye never put it back on. Mine was a PITA to remove and had to use a 1/2" long ratchet to remove it.



Great idea about having extra air horn gasket.



IMHO, the best tool to loosen/tighten the injector line is to use

a 19mm flare nut crows foot wrench. Put this on the end of the ratchet with a flex head and you're on your way to easy street.



Charles

 

[KatDiesel]

You don't "have" to remove the lifting eye. Least I haven't yet.

 

[jrobinson2]

I didn't remove the air horn when I changed mine, just a few line clamps.

Jared