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This gentleman wrote a very nice commentary about folks who legally carry concealed arms. What surprised me is that the quite liberal Roanoke Times would actually print it. I've reproduced it here without permission. Typographical errors are my fault and the fault of the OCR software I used to scan it.





By TIM ANDERSON



You don't know me, or maybe you just don't know that you do. I could be your neighbor, doctor, clergyman, nurse or just another nameless, faceless stranger in the crowd. I have a valid, court-issued permit to carry a concealed handgun, and I do so whenever possible.



Though you don't know me, there are a few things you can know about me for certain. The local police fingerprinted me. The fingerprint cards were submitted to the FBI and a criminal background check was performed. Before that, I had to pass state and local background checks. I had to present evidence of approved firearm-safety and marksmanship training to the court before my application would even be accepted.



I am not a felon, junkie, drug dealer, stalker or even a shoplifter, since any number of indiscretions, including alcohol or other drug abuse or even simple assault, would disqualify me from holding my permit.



My classroom training covered when it is appropriate and legal to even indicate that I have a gun, much less display it or actually use deadly force. Doing so in any circumstance, under which I am not in immediate fear for my life or the life of another, would mean more than the loss of my permit. Most likely, I would also be charged with brandishing a weapon, disorderly conduct and/or assault.



If it was determined that my use of deadly force was not to protect a life in immediate danger, I would probably be charged with second-degree murder or first-degree manslaughter. On top of these, I would also face civil liability.



Like most people who legally carry concealed handguns, I practice at a range regularly and am well aware of the laws and regulations affecting me.



I am not a nonresident alien. I am a good citizen, and I vote.



I avoid conflict. I know that should a situation escalate, I could be identified as the instigator and face losing my permit or worse.



I am very aware of the responsibility I bear, and I will walk or run away rather than risk confrontation.



I will, however, act swiftly and decisively to protect my life and the lives of those around me should the need arise. Are you afraid of me?



In my home state of Virginia, not one permit holder has been convicted of a violent gun crime despite more than 100,000 issued permits. Throughout the entire United States, not one police officer has ever been shot by a person with a legal handgun. A number have, however, been assisted and even rescued by armed, law-abiding citizens.



You should feel a degree of comfort knowing that there is someone nearby with the means, motive and training to possibly save your life, or that of those around you.



Criminals, on the other hand, should feel fear, never knowing if their next intended victim might be armed, trained and ready to effectively defend himself. If you feel safer patronizing establishments with a "No guns allowed" policy, please keep in mind that the criminals don't obey the signs or the laws.



Criminals know that the law-abiding customers of that establishment are easy prey and will have little or no fear of the consequences of their actions. The hallways and parking lots of these establishments might just as well post a sign saying: "Attention, criminals. You are now entering a self-defense-free crime zone. All potential victims have been disarmed! Enjoy! The Management. "



There is no need to fear me, I am just another loyal, law-abiding American. You should, however, be very afraid of those who endeavor to turn the entire law-abiding population of our great country into defenseless victims.



TIM ANDERSON of Boones Mill works as a mechanic for the government.
 
Very good article. Spells out the folly of disarming citizens, giving criminals (who by their nature do not obey laws) easy pickings.

Also spells out that rights come with responsibilities.



Here in NH there is no need for finger printing, and there is no mandatory state approved safty course. Once you subject your rights to a state run approval process your right is now a privilege. NH is a "shall issue state", if you have no criminal record the chief has to give you the permit and for $10 your good for 4 years ... simple enough.



I Wish honest citizens would excercise their rights more and create fear and terror within the criminal community for once.
 
I too have a concealed carry permit and couldn't agree more with this article. I do not go into establishments where I can not carry my handgun for obvious reasons. I am also a member of the NRA - the last line of defence against gun control advocates. :) When you enter my home illegally - if you get past the dogs you get to discuss why with me and my good freind Mr Ruger (cal. 45):p

Bob
 
I would agree that gun owners are by far one of the most law abidding groups of people. Even in VT where there are no fingerprints, background checks, classes, or even a PERMIT needed to carry concealed. BTW, VT has one of the lowest crime rates of any state (#48 IIRC). Gun owners are not the problem. Guns are not the problem. The CRIMINALS are the problem. Lets start dealing with the problem.



There is also another thread about this article here: TFL
 
I don't have a license to carry but support it 100%. What with terrorism being so predictable here in the states, I personnaly think it makes sense for law enforcement to step up efforts at deputizing more folks. There's a tidal wave of patriotism washing through this country right now, I think it makes perfect sense to cash in on it, let people contribute!

By drillin some punk *** religious fundamentalist with 180 grains of hollow point. Thats what I'm talkin about!:D



JJ
 
There is no such a permit in New Jersey. :(

Just another reason to hate this state. :mad:

I'll be hopefully moving to a free state soon.

Eric "from behind the peoples republic of new jersey iron curtain":p
 
That article is a great description of all CHL holders. One thing that irritates me though is that my company won't allow me to have my self defense tool even locked in a safe in my truck while I am at work. Arizona has a bill in their legislature called the Victim Disarmament Liability Act, or something to that effect, which states that all places that do not allowed CHL holders to have their firearms on their property, are now liable for all safety of that person and have to pay damages if something is to happen that they would have otherwise been able to prevent if they had their guns. Hopefully, something similar will be passed in Texas as well.
 
CCW

Virginia is a "shall issue" state- we apply to the Circuit Court and if there is no problem the permit MUST be issued- this was passed after some judges made it almost impossible and to give consistency- ours is a model for legislation around the country- we haven't had any problems- there is a requirement of a basic course but military or police experience can lead to a waiver- anyone who carries who has not extensively trained on drawing from concealment and IDPA type courses is not truly getting the most benefit- the next step is nationwide CCW for those of us who can meet the criteria- traveling with any weapon is very risky given the disparity in laws across the country
 
I have a state (Utah) issued CCP as did my late wife. We carried Kel-Tec . 32s that are light (6 oz. ) and thin (3/4 inch) with eight rounds. I carry mine in my Levi pocket and it is not at all discernible. Most of my friends are totally unaware of the weapon. Am I parinoid?... . maybe..... but I am responsible too. So, if you're ever near me when some scum-bag tries to do you wrong... ... I have eight reasons for him to desist. I'll even protect an anti-gunner..... or a Duramax owner... . whichever is more helpless... :)
 
Michigan

Michigan just allowed CCP last year. Since then, there have been 450,000 issued!! Do you think there is a demand... ? I should say so. In an interesting link, since the CCP law was passed, crime rate has fallen by 3. 5 % (a huge amount, when you consider downtown Detroit being an everynight warzone). My application has been filled out and signed. I'm working on the wife now, although she will lose this battle regardless of what she thinks about guns. Once she learns how to use one, I think she'll be a lot more favorable. I intend to carry my HK . 45 wherever I can.



B
 
Concealed Carry

The true sign of a responsible gun owner is just that type of carry- unobtrusive but not so deep that the weapon cannot be accessed under stress- Kel-Tecs are excellent but the Kahr series of nines and forties have taken the market by storm as well as the small Glocks- the H &K is excellent and one of our local police departments just went to the H &K in . 40- the USP has been well received but is a little blocky so you will need a very comfortable holster and the right clothing to keep it out of view. I carry a . 45 Colt or Kimber when I do in a Blade-Tech rig- I also like a seven shot Model 686 Smith with a 2 1/2" barrel in . 357. The center console in the Dodge is an excellent recepticle for these when driving- Whatever you carry train safely and alot- I have found that attendance at courses in Facilities like Blackwater in NC is excellent- those of you out West are blessed with Front Sight, Gunsite and Thunder Ranch- take a course with what you carry.
 
Concealed Carry seems to mean a different thing to different folks with different needs. I carry a light caliber (. 32) in a small weapon that is easily concealed in any situation. Since I figure any use of the weapon will be at close range and with somewhat a surprise element involved, the extra penetration factors of . 45 and especially. 357 were a bit excessive..... not to mention, dangerous. At home. where the nearest neighbor is through hundreds of yards and trees away... . 9 mm and . 357 rule. The Kel-Tec suits me just perfect for CC. It has a long trigger pull with no safety, allowing for a round in the chamber without fear of accidentally blasting your thigh... . or worse... . while scratching for change. A fear I always had with my WW I Mauser. I was advised by a deputy to consider the danger of high-powered weapons in a close neighborhood and that a 12 Ga. with buck or a little smaller shot was great, as the "clack-clack" of a round jacking into the chamber was very recognizable and feared by intruders. I have that too... ... with magnum slugs... ... . ;)
 
Caliber choice

This is subject to debate as diverse as what oil to use- the . 45 is the most popular carry gun and the overwhelming choice of professionals because it combines a big bullet with reasonable velocity- with 230 grain HPs it does not overpenetrate and this is what is used by many police departments who do not issue the . 40 which is fast- the . 32 has been used in Europe as a police round for years and is very popular in some loadings- I think a poll of gun professionals and trainers would overwhelmingly come out in favor of a . 40 or . 45 and even the hot new . 357 Sig is getting a following-remember the goal if deadly force is authorized is to put the threat down and tests have shown less than desirable results with the smaller loadings- even with a nine the choice is +P velocity- Remember the stopping power debate became strong after the FBI criticized the Silvertip nine after the Miami tragedy- subsequent ballistics tests led to the adoption of the 10mm and than the . 40 which was adopted- All in all we must use what we are comfortable with but I think the big bullet users are a large fraternity when the mission is self defense. with magazine limits of ten rounds many of us would rather carry ten rounds of . 40 or . 45 than the nine.
 
Carry guns for civilians and body armor for law enforcement have one thing in common... . if they are big, bulky and uncomfortable you will not be wearing it when you need it.



Second Chance and small alloy frame revolvers combined with



PRACTICE :cool:
 
Carry guns

Kimber, Glock, Sig and several others have all gone to smaller . 45s to meet the demand for CCW and cannot keep them on the shelves- you can have your cake and eat it too!!! Taurus and S &W have gone to titanium revolvers in . 44 Special for big bullets- the venerable . 38 is great also- carry what you are comfortable with but when you have a . 45 in a package as concealable as that AND you can shoot it that is the ticket- IDPA has a growing class for small revolvers and it is pretty popular but I will stick with old slabsides:)
 
I have shot USPSA (since 88) and IDPA since it's start w/ ol slabsides in every configuration possible. My USPSA "Open" gun is a compensated Para Ord . 38 super w/ all bells and whistles. My USPSA "limited" gun is a Para Ord. 1911 Hi-Cap tricked out and functions flawlessly... ... . well 99. 9%. My IDPA gun is a Colt 1911 A1 series 90 tuned to perfection. I have shot hundreds of thousands of rounds in practice and competition where there are no alibies. The gun must function to be competitive, and only autos are competitive. I have seen millions of rounds fired through slabsides in competion and seen (almost) every possible malfunction.



MY CARRY GUN IS A REVOLVER ;)
 
Carry gun

My Steel and Limited gun is an SVI Infinity . 40 made to order by Sandy Strayer, IDPA is either a Glock 34 in 9mm or a Colt . 45 Series 80 extensively modified by DR Middlebrooks- they have all malfunctioned but have also shot countless thousands of rounds flawlessly- I understand the concept of "six for sure" but a stock Kimber . 45 with night sights in cocked and locked carry will function just fine- I keep the game guns in the safe if I need to carry. I do like the 686 short barrel also for carry. At least we have the freedom to A) Carry and B) Disagree- imagine if we lived in Jersey when we would have to settle for strong language when the s**t hit the fan!!!!!!!!!
 
Great posts, guys. The older I get, the more comfortable I am with my S&W mod. 19 in 2. 5/. 357. Lint, dirt, no big deal. Bang every time. Speedloaders at hand, but if I must use them, I've done something wrong already. Not a game, this is just to get the job done.
 
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