Deep transmission Pans?

[backroad]

Is there anything so special about the deep aluminum pans of Magtech or Hughes. They seem to get a bunch of money for them. I noticed on the summitt website that they sell the deep aluminum B&M Pans for $135, they all add an extra 4 qts. to the 518 transmission.

 

[evldsl]

I installed a double deep Mag-hitec and it work's great. It also has a drain plug so I can drain the fluid and replace it without changing the filter ( dropping the pan) if I cook the fluid on accident or if I just want to change the fluid without changing the filter.

 

[MPlunkett]

They do help in my opinion. A new transmission is mucho $$$$ and 200 bucks to add extra cooling capacity is money well spent. The more fluid present the more cooling capacity you have. A friend who operates a transmission shop told me if they made a triple deep pan with 20 qt capacity to buy it... ..... But you see the point... . and like everyone else said, it allows you to moniter temps and service the transmission easier.

 

[Matt400]

Just thinking out loud here but. . I would think to go any deeper than stock it wouldn't help much unless you also move the pick up down to the cooler fluid on the bottom away from the heat source.

 

[R-N-R]

I recall reading a while ago that the was not much difference, other than price, between the B&M and the Magtech pans.

 

[RKraft]

I installed the double deep on mine for added strength and cooling. I have upgraded my trans since and am still running. It comes with a 1. 5" drop block to lower the filter and suction point closer to bottom. It also comes with a drilled and tapped hole for temp sender. I think it was worth it in my opinion. Just my two cents.

 

[I-6DZL]

I installed a mag double deep on my truck and would not even think about complaining over the 300 bucks. In my eyes it was well worth every cent.



Even on my 2wd it fits perfect, and is still higher than the front cross member, and trans cross member.



Curtis

 

[backroad]

actually I wuz think'n 'bout go'n to the Hughes Pan. Hughes has them on their site for about $240 but Summit offer the Hughes pan for $169 and that includes freight and no tax. I was really wondering if there were any real major differences between the different brands. I've seen all three of them and really like the Hughes pan. Not to mention that they're also from Arizona and awefully nice people. I'm running their HD lockup convertor on my 518 and seem to be completely satisfied wih their products in the past.

 

[Huff N Puff]

Is there anything so special about the deep aluminum pans of Magtech or Hughes. They seem to get a bunch of money for them. I noticed on the summitt website that they sell the deep aluminum B&M Pans for $135, they all add an extra 4 qts. to the 518 transmission.

The heavier the pan the better,cause not only does it help to keep the transmission cool but it also helps stiffen the case to keep it from twisting.

 

[Casey Ray]

I believe ATS has a trans pan that is 5 qts over stock. Check it out here.



Casey

 

[Matt400]

It comes with a 1. 5" drop block to lower the filter and suction point closer to bottom.

Cool, What brand of pan was that?

 

[evldsl]

Just thinking out loud here but. . I would think to go any deeper than stock it wouldn't help much unless you also move the pick up down to the cooler fluid on the bottom away from the heat source.

The mag-hitec comes with a filter extension for the deep trans cover.

 

[DieselMinded]

Here is a comparison guide with links to the Company's



http://www.3d.otisnet.net/tranny_pans.htm



DM

 

[RKraft]

Matt

I have the mag-tec dd pan. Like I said I went with it for the added strength and extra fluid for cooling. I looked into others but this seemed to be best one for me. It sits up higher than the cross member also on my truck and I have 4wd. I got mine from Extreme Diesel for I think $225. 00 last November they had a sale. But there allot of good aftermarket pans just what fits your needs.

Randy

 

[Mark Craig]

backroad,



Consider the PML pans, cost is the best overall and the quality and performance is as good as the rest. Adding too much fluid by the way actually causes the fluid to stay at a higher than average temp in hilly areas. There's a lot of info on them on our site.



Mark @ DPPI

 

[Mtngoat]

I have a B and M pan, and as I remember it actually only holds 2 extra quarts. Something to do with if installed on a car it adds 4 qts to the CARS specifications, but only 2 to the trucks. I may be wrong, I am still asleep, but its something like that. . Sorry!!



Robin

 

[backroad]

Well... ... ... . I decided on the Hughes pan... ..... I lend to believe that it's amongst the heaviest out there, it does add four extra quarts, it does have the extension for the filter pickup and Summit has it for $169 including shipping and no tax. Thanx for all the feed back guys.

 

[Hohn]

I may br crazy, but WHY WOULD YOU WANT MORE FLUID CAPACITY? I can see the benefits of more capacity in something like a differential or manual trans, but in an auto trans??



The diffs and mannys have NO COOLING MEANS with respect to fluid being pumped out to a cooling device.



An auto trans has a cooling means-- it pumps the fluid to the radiator and/or aux transmission cooler.



IMO, extra auto trans capacity is a waste of money (more expensive fluid changes) and ground clearance.



If you want your trans to run cooler, add an aux cooler.



If you want the fluid to last longer, add a separate filtration setup.



Additional transmission capacity is the wrong way to try and accomplish some things that are better achieved by different means.



It's odd to me that sump-type systems are made larger and larger as the "performance" application becomes more severe. Yet, as you reach the highest levels of performance, they do away with the sump all together and go to a "dry sump" system... What's wrong with this picture????





The ultimate setup imo would be a dry sump auto trans setup, complete with scavenge pump, cooler, filter, etc.



jlh

 

[Morse]

When I asked Joe at Suncoast what the major benefit of the pan would be, his reply was "they sure are pretty". . He also did say that the drain would be useful. . Since I wanted to go ahead and order one today, he sold me a mag pan that holds two extra quarts for $199. . I don't know what these pans normally go for, though I expected to pay more. . He could have given me a really good deal because I've purchased two full transmissions from him. . For all I know, I could have paid more than normal. .

 

[Matt400]

It's odd to me that sump-type systems are made larger and larger as the "performance" application becomes more severe. Yet, as you reach the highest levels of performance, they do away with the sump all together and go to a "dry sump" system... What's wrong with this picture????

True and on the dry sump systems they run a tank that has even more capacity.