Deleted Non LE Oil???

[Newsa]

My oil experience:
I change it a 6 month intervals.
I use 5W-40 T6 all year.
In combination with the oil pump and internal resistance to flow, it has oil pressure
It is slippery
It is oily
Engine has not grenaded
Never give it a second thought.

T6 is obviously the best oil.


Almost forgot.....most importantly, I go through the fender.

Don't bother with those pesky UOA's?

 

[Newsa]

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[Newsa]

The T6 15w 40 is $13 more per gallon on Amazon. Actually more than Amsoil when i apply my preferred customer discount. They will need to reduce that price to compete

 

[kthaxton]

Don't bother with those pesky UOA's?

I did....once. I still have two samples ready to ship.....from 2 and 2.5 years ago. I might send them off some day.

 

[pwr2tow]

Extended oil drain intervals, they can be done with non-synthetic using the same methods as useing synthetic.

100 times more documentations of non synthetic oil engines reaching more miles (million plus) then synthetic oil engines. AND that was on junky old CG, CH, certified non synthetic oils. Imagine the robustness of CK4.

Cost, puff, if it was 10 cents cheaper through a oil change and saved another 10 cents in engine wear through each oil change interval every fleet operator would be using synthetic engine oil. Over the life oil changes and extended engine miles and the number of fleet vehicles would be a nice substantial bonus check for the CEO. LOL.

The only ones running full boutique synthetic oils are the guys with too much money, or too much time on their hands, or they like to experiment, or gainful monetary gain through a legal pyramid scheme, or a combination of such.

With modern non boutique synthetic oils (highly refined hydrocracked synthetic dino oil) useing boutique synthetic oils is a waste of money.

 

[AH64ID]

Extended oil drain intervals, they can be done with non-synthetic using the same methods as useing synthetic.

Yes, as an added cost.

The oil I run doesn't need UOA to go 12 months, something I wouldn't do without UOA on other oils.

With modern non boutique synthetic oils (highly refined hydrocracked synthetic dino oil) useing boutique synthetic oils is a waste of money.

Being able to double oil life (12 mo vs 6 mo) I save money with Amsoil DME over running other off the shelf oils, and I save time.

 

[pwr2tow]

Yes, as an added cost.

The oil I run doesn't need UOA to go 12 months, something I wouldn't do without UOA on other oils.




Being able to double oil life (12 mo vs 6 mo) I save money with Amsoil DME over running other off the shelf oils, and I save time.

You are wrong, oil analysis on conventional oil have shown they can run multiple years and or miles.
You have to establish a base line no matter synthetic or conventional.

 

[Cummins12V98]

I change my 15 at 15k and do a sample every time. I am more than good even if well over the 6 mo mark.

Yup I have money to throw around.

 

[AH64ID]

You are wrong, oil analysis on conventional oil have shown they can run multiple years and or miles.
You have to establish a base line no matter synthetic or conventional.

Yes a baseline is required to extend drain intervals. The oil I run isn’t on an extended interval at 12 months, so no baseline required. So no, it’s not wrong.

I do sample, but it’s not required.

 

[pwr2tow]

I change my 15 at 15k and do a sample every time. I am more than good even if well over the 6 mo mark.

Yup I have money to throw around.

I change my conventional every 15,000 miles and spend the saved $90.00 on booze, music, and wild women. LOL

 

[Wiredawg]

I change my 15 at 15k and do a sample every time. I am more than good even if well over the 6 mo mark.

Yup I have money to throw around.

Ron, Me too! I've never used time as basis for changing oil, only miles. Same on my 2917 Ram 5500, except miles change interval is 13.5K miles. I guess adjusted for higher duty cycle?

Thought I'd throw Asin transmission fluid change interval in here too. I misread it on my 09 4500 and did first fluid change along with flush and assess wear at 60K miles. I asked dealer to check extra careful for wear because I ran it on Smarty level 5 (90HP/180 TQ), and told them I did. Came back fluid clean, no appreaciable wear. I was impressed because the AS68RC was rated at 730 Lb Ft TQ, and I put 790 to it with 98% heavy towing duty cycle.

Now I Know the Aisin maintenance schedule calls for fluid change at 30K miles, and full service at 60K miles. I'll assess when I hit 30K miles on it.

Just thought I'd add that tidbit.

Cheers, Ron

 

[Wiredawg]

I change my conventional every 15,000 miles and spend the saved $90.00 on booze, music, and wild women. LOL

I just noticed you haven't mentioned what oil you use. Whatever is on sale? Oil is oil, right?

Cheers, Ron

 

[pwr2tow]

Yes a baseline is required to extend drain intervals. The oil I run isn’t on an extended interval at 12 months, so no baseline required. So no, it’s not wrong.

I do sample, but it’s not required.

I just noticed you haven't mentioned what oil you use. Whatever is on sale? Oil is oil, right?

Cheers, Ron

Come on now, don't start this. Any CK4 will run 15,000 miles or multiple years.

 

[Wiredawg]

No one starting anything? Simple question: do you use a specific brand CK4 oil or do you use whatever CK4 is on sale? It's a fair question.

Cheers, Ron

 

[pwr2tow]

No one starting anything? Simple question: do you use a specific brand oil or do you use whatever CK4 is on sale? It's a fair question.

Cheers, Ron

I favor Rottela, Delo, Mystik. Travelers, supertech are also excellent. So no not tied to any particular brand but not always what's on sale either. I guess Supertech would most times be the lowest cost for the value but not always on cost but excellent robust oil for cost.

 

[Wiredawg]

Come on now, don't start this. Any CK4 will run 15,000 miles or multiple years.

I favor Rottela, Delo, Mystik. Travelers, supertech are also excellent. So no not tied to any particular brand but not always what's on sale either. I guess Supertech would most times be the lowest cost for the value but not always on cost but excellent robust oil for cost.

OK, I buy into that. There was a lot of years, like my first 15 years driving from 1974, I put whatever SAE motor oil in my vehicles. and price was the factor. Never had a problem.

My BIL maintains three 7.3 Diesel Fords and likes Mystik xxW-50 here in TX.

Good info.

Cheers. Ron

 

[JR]

Cummins recommends 12 months on their time intervals as of 2019. This with conventional oil. I asked a Cummins engineer at CMEP at the TDR rally if the changes with the 19 engine were the driving force behind the bump up from 6 months and his answer was no. I suspect, but don't know that has been Rams discretion, I have seen both 6 and 12 month intervals recommended in cranes with QSB and QSC engines.

 

[JR]

I don't see a marine 15w 40. Closest is a 10w 40 in the marine offerings on the amsoil website.

Here is what I use

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Interesting that they claim higher zinc levels and the CK4 certification.

 

[Cummins12V98]

 

[Newsa]

Interesting that they claim higher zinc levels and the CK4 certification.

I also thought that strange. Maybe they have a different formulation of zinc than zddp?

Kendall/Phillips 66 has a titanium formula that partly replaces zddp. And others use moly