foolkiller, I thought you said you are calling it a night? My wife is thnking I have somekind of internet girl friend staying up this late. Hey I just got back from many months of deployment in the desert and I'm cathing up on thing in the TDR world. What time are you guys going to bed? I'm just waiting for my Smarty to finish downloading software. I'm using the aftermarket injectors with stock turbo Ver. 4. 10C Data: 2. 08C Mild torque management. I was told the aftermarket injector has a mild timing advance. The pinging and rattle of the stock injector & turbo just othered me. What program are you all using?