2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission did the dealer yank his crank ??

[continentaldrifter]

Has anybody EVER heard of a Dodge dealer tell you the correct way to turn rotors down was to leave the rotors on the axle while the truck is on the lift and attach the lathe and then proceed to cut... ..... my boss told me the dealer he bought his Ram from said that this is the correct way,how can this be,on or off the truck,a standard brake lathe should be capable of doing just as good of a job as this imaginery machine that they told him about. Even so,i've never heard of such a machine!!Have you?So are they for real??

 

[TGaines]

Several shops around here use the lathes that work while the rotor is on the truck. I read somewhere that due to the size of the rotors that it was hard to get them turned accurately off the truck and that on the truck was the only way to do it correctly. I haven't seen one in use personally, other than on a commercial for a repair shop. Do know someone that uses one and swears by it. It's all they use at his shop.



Travis

 

[Deezul1]

Some rotors are such a PITA to get off that maybe its a good thing to do them that way, save ya some money. As long as it works well with good results, who cares.

 

[Bob V]

Yes that is the correct way and the best way to get them true to the axle.

 

[Trizae]

the factory want all dealers to have a ProCut On-The-Car Brake Leathe,,,,, that way your rotors are turned on you wheel bearings and you spindles,,,,, it does make a big difference



Trey Dressler

Dressler Motors Inc

 

[Mad Bomber]

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Originally posted by Trizae

the factory want all dealers to have a ProCut On-The-Car Brake Leathe,,,,, that way your rotors are turned on you wheel bearings and you spindles,,,,, it does make a big difference



Trey Dressler

Dressler Motors Inc

Trey, does this go for 2WDs also? or just 4WD

 

[DKayser]

rotors

Honda has been pushing this setup to their dealers for 15+ years. We had one before I left in 89. DK.

 

[Forrest Nearing]

the pontiac dealership my buddy works at has one of those setups... I did a quadruple take the first time I saw it!!! come to think of it, so does the Ford dealership that my other buddy works for!



Forrest

 

[duaneparks]

Originally posted by Deezul1

Some rotors are such a PITA to get off that maybe its a good thing to do them that way, save ya some money. As long as it works well with good results, who cares.

This is exactly what my brake guy told me. To take the rotors off requires more work than simply turning them while still attached to the truck. I've had 3 trucks done this way since new and never had a prob.



Duane

 

[Rman]

yes that is the best way to turn your brakes. Problem is most small shops don't have them and the big boys generally aren't a bargain. But as little as brakes need to be changed I guess it's just on of those things.

 

[fkovalski]

Is'nt this the process for doing the fronts only on 4WD's? Then the front drive shaft has to be removed as the lathe is self propelled. On 2WD's the rotors are the the old style that we all know and love. Must repack the bearings though which is a good idea anyway.

 

[Rman]

could be fkovalski... I always forget there are 2wd trucks around, i never even think about them, hell i haven't seen a fullsize 2wd in a long time. Even the little toyotas and nissans are all 4wd around here.



Do you really have to remove the drive shaft? Could you just turn it through the transfer case? As long as that isn't engaged it's free spinning. I'm not sure how the lathe works though, maybe i'm seeing it wrong.

 

[fkovalski]

I inquired at the dealership with whom I deal and they quoted me that the cost would be about $350 to do just front brakes. He went on further to say that this cost was due to the fact that the rotors would be trurned "on the truck" and that thier policy is to remove the drive shaft. I am going to keep a keen eye on the thickness of the front pads and slap a set on when needed myself without turning the rotors unless there is vibration in the steering that might warrant the machining.



I have a follow up question-- What's the deal with the rear rotors? I am not familiar with them on our trucks. I am glad that I have discs as I just recently discovered that I have floating axles. I remember what a pain in the arse that dually Chevy's of the early 80's with drums were to do brakes on. I am hoping that I will not have to pull the axles on mine- 'speially since they are dics brakes.

 

[Rman]

Good questions! I have a service manual for my 2002, I will look into that for ya. My friend has an 01 with 75k and his rear brakes literally look new. He tow's a 26 foot TT quite a bit, we always talk how great 4 wheel disks are. I don't plan on getting my rotors turned for some time. Normally I just chuck a new set of pads on and am ok. I know they won't last as long... blah blah... the right way... blah blah. It's cheap, it works for me, and well I'll turn the rotors when i feel like it.



Are the axles full or semi floaters? I think there just semi floaters. I'll check the manual again. I'm glad drum brakes are gone for me. Though I have a 73 landcruiser with 4 wheel drums... I adjust them ALL the time it seems. (Though it is in serious rebuild mode right now... parts EVERYWHERE)

 

[fkovalski]

Originally posted by rhickman





Are the axles full or semi floaters? I think there just semi floaters. I'll check the manual again. I'm glad drum brakes are gone for me. Though I have a 73 landcruiser with 4 wheel drums... I adjust them ALL the time it seems. (Though it is in serious rebuild mode right now... parts EVERYWHERE)

Not sure of the difference between full and semi floaters. Enlighten me please.



Do not the old FJ's have 2 wheel cylinders per drum? Talk about a pain in the arse!



Thanks for the info.

-frank

 

[BudW]

Ours are full floaters. the 1/2 tons have semi floaters.



Bud

 

[BDMiller]

Originally posted by fkovalski

Not sure of the difference between full and semi floaters. Enlighten me please.

In general full floating axles have axle shafts which do not carry the vehicles weight. Instead roller bearings support the weight so that the axle shaft could be removed without disturbing the wheel. In theory you could put free-wheeling hubs on if you wished.



Most drivable front axles are full floating while full floating rear axles are only used on heavier duty vehicles.



Brian

 

[Joe G.]

Originally posted by fkovalski

I am hoping that I will not have to pull the axles on mine- 'speially since they are dics brakes.

Pulling the axles on a full floating setup is really simple. Remove the eight bolts in the end of the axle and pull it out. Don't even have to jack up the truck.

 

[fkovalski]

Originally posted by Joe G.

Pulling the axles on a full floating setup is really simple. Remove the eight bolts in the end of the axle and pull it out. Don't even have to jack up the truck.

JoeG-

I do remember the axle removal not being all that difficult (I do recall that on Cheby's that the punkin' cover had to be removed to take off the "C" clips. ) But with rear discs on the Dodge is it reqired in order to do brake job? I know if I had drums that they would be needed to be removed.

 

[Joe G.]

I don't know about rear disc brakes. I suppose that if the rotors had to be turned the axle would be pulled to eliminate any unnecessary load on the brake lathe. The axles do NOT have to be removed to do a brake job on our drum brakes. The drums can be a PITA to get off the first time.



Were the C clips used on the full floating axles in Chevies? I thought they were only on the 1/2 tons.