Diesel Fuel Prices Going Up!!!

[Buffalo]

Last week, diesel was $2. 37/9 @ the Flying J, here in Phoenix.

Today (11/13/'06), it's $2. 48/9. It's been going up two cents every day or two.



It may be my imagination but, it seems that immediately after the election, the prices started climbing.



I wonder if this is a sign of things to come?



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[dhill]

Last week, diesel was $2. 37/9 @ the Flying J, here in Phoenix.

Today (11/13/'06), it's $2. 48/9. It's been going up two cents every day or two.



It may be my imagination but, it seems that immediately after the election, the prices started climbing.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

Last Monday I paid $2. 39. This Monday it's $2. 81. What's the change? Only the election.



Dave

 

[Alphacowboy]

give me a break! it has nothing to do with elections... .

 

[Nate]

Sure.



Not too long ago it was ~$2. 50 here, lowest it has been ALL year. It's $2. 83 today.

 

[TSpecht]

Yes, it must be a conspiracy, afterall it's not marching steadily towards winter, which is historically colder, which drives up heating oil demand, and therefore cuts back on supply of diesel fuel, which seem to come from the same cut of crude in the refining process.

That's amazing, the Democrats won in quite a few areas, and now prices are going back up. Are we to assume oil execs are Democrats too?

The assumption that fuel prices are being rigged is an example of a logical fallacy known as "Post hoc, ergo prompter hoc", meaning literally "afterwords, therefore because of. " Really...

 

[Buffalo]

Alphacowboy,



Since the prices started rising immediately after the elections, It's fairly easy to assume that 'may' be the reason.



All you've given us is a "Give me a break" comment and no answer to the question. If it has nothing to do with the elections, then what is the cause?



I think the change in government, possibly, is causing some uneasiness in the oil market, thus increased fuel prices.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[Cummnzpowr]

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Buffalo. . don't expect much more response from a christian/conservative

The prices have everything to do with the elections. .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061109/ap_on_bi_ge/oil_prices

Read that...

 

[chazj]

The price of diesel is increasing while simultaneously the price of crude oil is still "on the decline"... so much that OPEC is considering more cuts in their output to raise the cost of a barrel of crude oil.



It appears we just can't win...

 

[JasonCzerak]

Yes, it must be a conspiracy, afterall it's not marching steadily towards winter, which is historically colder, which drives up heating oil demand, and therefore cuts back on supply of diesel fuel, which seem to come from the same cut of crude in the refining process.



. .

yeah, like everyone FORGOT WINTER WAS COMING. . "ohh crap, we forgot to push production up 10% for the winter demand. . ohh well, lets raise prices"



historically, prices go up 10 or 20 cents/gallon. they went up 50cents here, gas went up 10, and then a few days later when down 15. how do you explain that if gas and diesel comes from the same pot?



The way I see it is diesel's are a premium vehicle or a work truck and people who use it for work, or can afford the $6000 option can afford the fuel and won't b1tch as much.



And yeah, one more point, they are typically working, they don't have time to do anything but at 10pm to complain on websites.



if I was well off and had the time, I wouldn't care. if I wasn't well off, I wouldn't have a diesel truck, and would have time to complain.



So..... Who has a diesel, cares, and has time?

 

[JasonCzerak]

Off topic, but not on principle of my last comment



Big fuel saver for me will be when the freaking retarded moronic "traffic people" realize that the traffic light system in the state of Minnesota DOES NOT WORK WITH SENSORS AT ALL!



sensors in the road fail to flow traffic properly. despite their "studies" it's obvious that if I hit 14 out of 16 (I need to count, but it's close I bet) traffic lights on a 4 lane split road in a matter of 6 miles. it's a BAD THING. for fuel eco and ware and tare and just over all stress of trying to drive 6 miles in less then 20 minutes at 7am!



Will I find the time to fight this? Heck no.



What will I do if I ever meet the person that built this system and thinks it works well? heh. no comment.

 

[PMakar]

It is that time of year

Diesel competes directly with home heating oil and kerosene. This time of year heating oil production increases in anticipation of demand, and diesel production is cut back. I don't mind the seasonal price hike as much as the fact that it is over priced in relation to production costs to begin with. That be the rub.

 

[CBrahs]

2. 63 a gallon here in Albuquerque at local stores. 2. 47 at the flying J. Went up over 10 cents over night at the local stores a week ago.

 

[Schlickenmeyer]

Just read an article in the TDR mag about the changes in winter blend required under the new fuel rules. would explain the prices to some degree, glad I filled up all my fuel tins at 2. 45 last week. I do wish I had grabbed a 55gal drum from a racer friend of mine who has empties.

 

[Alphacowboy]

Buffalo. . don't expect much more response from a christian/conservative

What the heck is that suppose to mean?



I just so happened to be busy at the moment I saw this thread, and thought I would just toss a quick responce in here sharing a glimpse of my view.



Personally, I am sick and tired of the BS with the oil prices and the republicans, its a bunch of bs. Fuel prices here didnt skyrocket right after the election, they still are doing what they did 6 months ago, 8 months ago, 12 months ago... need I go on? The prices havent been stabel at low or high prices in years. They swin 10-20 cents each and every day. Hell I have seen fuel prices swing damn near 50 cents with no rhyme or reason to it.



There is an answer to all of this BS, and the problem no one wants to listen. Flat out, we need to either get on the freakin ball and drill to our hearts content in Alaska, or find a completely different fuel system, and when I say different fuel "system" I am talking finding an entirely new way to power our vehicles, but that wont happen, not in my life time it wont.

 

[RStamand]

I agree with everything Alpha cowboy says but I'm not as pessimistic about a new form of power. Currently fuel is too cheap to create innovation. Get it up to 10 bucks a gallon and I bet we see some research. As far as the multiple BS's, Americans are economically illiterate by and large. They want answers that are simple or reinforce a preconcieved belief. That is why politicians and the press can lie as much as they do.

 

[SNiebaum]

If you think the prices are bad now, wait until the newly elected congressional leadership goes after "big-oil" profits and eliminates subsidies to energy companies... .

 

[amsoilman]

If you think the prices are bad now, wait until the newly elected congressional leadership goes after "big-oil" profits and eliminates subsidies to energy companies... .

READ this!



http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20061115/ts_csm/abullseye_1

 

[bigtoy]

My opinion big oil is a friggen monopoly!! OPEC is only part of the problem! There is no competition between oil companies. Our wonderful govt. should be breaking these monopolies up, but instead what have we seen in the past? mergers! If you choose to believe that there is no price fixing going on, Fine, I wish I could believe that. Look at the phone companys, breaking up Ma Bell was the best thing they ever did. Look at what we used to pay for long distance. Competition is the answer, without it you have what we have at the pumps, and flimsy exscuses to go with it. If you don't think big oil is not an influence to our government, I have a bridge for sale! I am also sick of hearing that environmentalists have not allowed us to build new refineries, that would be a valid argument if there was competition, but when there is only a few oil companies controling production, why would you want to spend money on a refinery to increase production to boost supply and risk lowering the price?

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

I saw a couple stations here today at $2. 99, same price Flying J is today. Never have figured out why this region is one of the top rip-off spots

 

[UP N MTNS]

Two weeks ago $2. 49, one week ago $2. 67... . Today $2. 99 :--)