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Yep, it was 3. 39 here one day, 3. 45 the next. Of course, I had to put 35+ gallons in on the 3. 45 day. :-laf Still gets my goat that it's more than super unleaded. #@$%!
 
The "projected" fuel to be over $4/gallon by April this past December... you know they will force it there somehow to make their money.
 
It really is starting to **** me off to have to pay these prices. #2 was 3. 59 on the way to school in the moning and on the way home it was 3. 75. I can't wait to see what it is today. A couple of days ago the instructor over at the Diesel class told me where to find B20 and I got a full tank. Not that it really helps anything, but made me feel a bit better about not putting as much money in the oil companies pocket. For all I know the B20 is made or owned by one of those companies anyway. I can't win unless I stop driving, then I lose also. :{:{
 
I sure hope that when we have the changing of the guard (new President/Administration), that they look into this problem. It's beyond a problem, it's a joke. How many other industries could get away with something like this for this long.



Just make sure you ask alot of questions the next time your legislators come up for re-election.
 
I sure hope that when we have the changing of the guard (new President/Administration), that they look into this problem. It's beyond a problem, it's a joke. How many other industries could get away with something like this for this long.



Just make sure you ask alot of questions the next time your legislators come up for re-election.
I'd like to think any administration can control the oil companies. It's the other way around. The Dems. have openly stated they will tack on a substantial per/gallon "surcharge". Vote with your pocketbook next time. We've got lots of reserves that can be tapped but the "greens" won't let the oil companies touch them. I've got an Accord that helps soften the misery of filling my beast up.
 
The Dems. have openly stated they will tack on a substantial per/gallon "surcharge

OOHH, that'll fix those nasty oil companies! They'll eat that as a loss. NOT! You and I will pay for that and the profits will rise. A business is never taxed. The consumer is always taxed.
 
AMink,



You hit the proverbial nail on the head.

Consumers always pay the taxes.



We live in a great country, but we need to get back on track for the ordinary citizen and common person.



Ok, I'm stopping now before I get on a roll. :)
 
I sure hope that when we have the changing of the guard (new President/Administration), that they look into this problem.







As much as I dislike george Jr, I don't believe it's his fault nor his administration nor the dems. It's the mideast trying to get all they can out of us.
 
If all the stories are true about having enough oil reserves in our own country, then they should be utilized to prop up our economy not another foreign country.



I'm not opposed to buying from other countries, if it's a fair price.



I really don't think I can do anything about it, except pay the price and complain.



Things could be much worse, but they could be alot better also.



Later,



Bob
 
Not supposed to buy any fuel foday. There is a national boycott on buying any type of fuel this one day. This boycott should put several million gallons of gas and diesel fuel in a glut situation, and possibly bring the cost of oil down. If this one day boycott doesnt work, they are going to do it again until the price comes down. When people stop buying for one day the oil companies will soon run out of storage space, plus they will loose billions in revenue. Austraulia is doing this today also. It just might work. On the flip side, I think 3 barrels of oil for 1 bushel of grain to these ragheads would be just about right. See who gets hungry first!!!!
 
It would be far more effective if everyone would not buy fuel for a week, however that will never happen. Maybe three days.
 
There are other reasons for the increase in fuel prices that aren't related to a conspiracy theory. For instance:

The value of the dollar is down.

Demand is up from both China and India, in addtion to our consumption.

Inadequate refinery capacity in the US- Just had an explosion at a plant in Texas this week.

Added cost of making ULSD.



The above is not the fault of the oil execs. Just the world we live in.
 
Ours went up $0. 16 in two days here in Gardnerville, NV. What gets me if you go to Flyingj.com, then fuel pricing, gasoline. This brings up the fuel prices of gas & diesel & propane in the US. Now go to top where says to choose country bring up Canada. In 99% of the pricing diesel is the same price or lower then regular gas. Take a price $0. 952 x 3. 7854 will equal $3. 60 a gal. Some of us are already paying that now & as far as I know Canada also has ULSD. Tell me we aren't getting screwed.
 
It would be far more effective if everyone would not buy fuel for a week, however that will never happen. Maybe three days.



The only EFFECTIVE way it it to TRULY CONSERVE!

US CAR Makers: give us good small efficient vehicles.

Drivers: SLOW DOWN, reduce trips, car pool.

EPA: Get off our backs. What's worse, 12mpg and low NOx/soot or 25 mpg?
 
I have been driving slower for the past few days trying to save fuel. It seems to be helping some. I don't see the benifit of not buying fuel for one day. Wouldn't the oil companies make up the difference the next day? If we all stopped buying fuel for a week it would have some effect, but who can do that if we have to go to work, school, take the kids to school... .



I agree that that conservation is really the only way to get the prices down. If we only drove when we really needed too, carpooled, took mass transit or just walked or rode a bike for local trips it would make a huge difference. I am a bad offender myself. I never walk and don't even own a bike. That might change.
 
'NO KIDDING"So true about flour---from someone who has been delivering bread to the local grocers/food service for over 20 years,the price of diesel has gone up---no doubt----But last year at this time we were paying just under $300. 00 Canadian for a ton of flour,Jan08---it went to $630. 00TON,and March 01/08 it will be at $1060. . 00Ton:eek::eek::eek:----Flour is kind of like oil nowadays+no "lock in prices" from the mills anymore---too volatile for now. On Monday all of my customers will be getting a 28% price increase----third increase in one year. But what most customer don't realize is that I(ME)am only the messenger and we (our company)in the past has tried for the best to absorb as much of the cost as possible. Only good thing about this is that all bread guys work on commission,usually10-12hour days/6days/week around here,so basically we are getting a raise. Some may say it must be nice/but before all these price increases,i never had a raise for at least 5 years--percentage wise,want a raise WORK LONGER/HARDER---SELL MORE BREAD!!!!SORRY FOR MY RANT:-laf:-laf:-laf----
 
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The "projected" fuel to be over $4/gallon by April this past December... you know they will force it there somehow to make their money.



i am already paying over $4 a gallon. . diesel here is over $1. 00 a liter. my last tank was $1. 069 a liter... vegetable oil at the grocery store on sale right now is $0. 99 a liter... :mad:
 
Not supposed to buy any fuel foday. There is a national boycott on buying any type of fuel this one day. This boycott should put several million gallons of gas and diesel fuel in a glut situation, and possibly bring the cost of oil down. If this one day boycott doesnt work, they are going to do it again until the price comes down. When people stop buying for one day the oil companies will soon run out of storage space, plus they will loose billions in revenue. Austraulia is doing this today also. It just might work. On the flip side, I think 3 barrels of oil for 1 bushel of grain to these ragheads would be just about right. See who gets hungry first!!!!

It would take 2-3 weeks of everyone not purchasing any fuel to make an impact. I know the refineries near me have only 3-10 days of storage for finished or intermediate fuels.

Last part and I will get off the box... Canada is the number one country we get our oil imported from, then Saudi Arabia, then Venezuela, and finally Mexico (Source: American Petroleum Institue Welcome To The API Website). This is after the amount of oil the US produces on its own; the US is the third highest oil producing country as well

The big oil companies (ExxonMobil, Chevron, BP) are very small compared to the Nationalized oil companies, like Saudi Aramco, Gazprom, Petrobras, Petroleos de Venezuela, etc... . Once production is halted it will take months to start back up again. Months of time that the products we use would not be produced or be brought to market.

I really don't believe(IMHO) that the boycotts of fueling stations for a day or two would impact that much. Besides the stock holders of those publically held oil companies wouldn't not be very happy when their stock falls 30% to 40%.
I believe that the solution is each of us minimizing our own consumption as we are able. Encouraging the production of bio-related fuels as a means to help lower the consumption of the hydrocarbon based fuels as a percentage. Encourage the good old Yankee ingenuity to find a different type of energy. Identify and remove the barriers to having a true fusion based reactor for a relatively unending supply of energy.
 
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