diesel less than gas

[Kurt Henzler]

we have a bp that has been selling diesel for 2. 09 while fuel is upper 2. 20/s. all other stations within 60 miles are all 249+. how can this be?

 

[MechanicMike]

Not sure but I filled up last night @ 2. 55 a gallon and abot 3 miles down the road there was an Exxon selling Diesel at 2. 79. What gives?? I just aired up the tires in my mountain bike looks like that will be my new transportation :-laf

 

[boonsur]

Diesel should always be cheaper, because it requires less refining. Drives you nuts when they charge you more for diesel than gas (gouging)!

 

[plntmgr]

It's quite the opposite in the San Fernando Valley of So Cal. In the less expensive station gas is 2. 53 while diesel is 2. 63. Just a comparison. Don

 

[DAT]

Diesel in the Portland, OR area is from 2. 60 to 2. 79. I use Pacific Pride and it usually is about 3-5 cents less than the Chevron/Shells in the area.



From what it sounds, OR and WA have the highest diesel prices in the nation.

 

[JHardwick]

Diesel should always be cheaper, because it requires less refining. Drives you nuts when they charge you more for diesel than gas (gouging)!

Tell me about it. My local haunt is kicking off a soy-bio diesel thing tomorrow, complete with free hot-dogs and all the hoopla along with a rep on hand.



It's going to be $. 04 more than petro diesel

 

[Hercules130]

i thought the diesel was refined more now to be cleaner and that is why it is more expensive. i heard it from a guy who knows a guy.

 

[WyattEarp]

Currently:

87 octane average 2. 30

89 octane average 2. 40

92 octane average 2. 50

As of right now.....



Diesel average is 2. 25 to 2. 30

Noticed today the superwalmart Murphy's station diesel 2 days ago was 2. 29 today is 2. 17 could it be diesel is settling down im not sure as one shell station diesel was 2. 35 who knows.

But gas has surpassed diesel here for now so i don't feel like im being bent over as hard, still sucks as far as im concerned though. I hope we get biodiesel here i don't think it will be as high due to all the farms around which im sure will be using it instead of regular diesel fuel, i wonder is there going to be a off road biodiesel? if so thats the ticket right there, i don't care if it smells like your frying egg rolls.

 

[Cummins Thunder]

i don't care if it smells like your frying egg rolls.

Man would that drive the ricers nuts! :-laf

 

[tazzen]

we have a bp that has been selling diesel for 2. 09 while fuel is upper 2. 20/s. all other stations within 60 miles are all 249+. how can this be?

KURT.

No more 2. 09 :{ oilbuner posted that price so went there yesterday and it is now 2. 29 but it is still the cheapest. And they got the slowest pump aroud. took me 25 minutes to get 20 gallons.



ED

 

[DocDetonancour]

Noticed today for the first time that diesel has topped $2. 50 her in the land of the spud. That is around 10 cents higher that premium 91. Sucks! Doc

 

[agkrueger]

I guess I wont whine as much about 2. 45 here, but that is the highest I have ever had to pay yet. Im actually considering parking the truck and getting a 35mpg rice burner to go back and forth to work.

 

[JCrockett]

I guess I wont whine as much about 2. 45 here, but that is the highest I have ever had to pay yet. Im actually considering parking the truck and getting a 35mpg rice burner to go back and forth to work.

How can buying another vehicle be cheaper? You can buy a bunch of diesel for what you will pay on a new car payment, insurance, fuel, oil, maint, etc. , not to mention you will still be paying the insurance on your truck while it is parked. Not unless you pick up one of those $500 POS. I have thought about this as well. My thought is if you NEED a fullsize truck, then have one and pay to feed it. The little bit of cost you will save in just fuel does not offset the cost of owing and operating another vehicle, even if it gets twice the mileage.



JMO

 

[JHardwick]

Currently:

i wonder is there going to be a off road biodiesel? if so thats the ticket right there, i don't care if it smells like your frying egg rolls.

egg rolls nothin, this is soy-bio, made from soy beans, it'll smell like one big 'ole fart!! :-laf

 

[GCross]

Paid $2. 58 for last fill this week and am expecting to see 3 bucks sometime this year, at least that's what the news jockeys on TV keep telling us. Why one station is cheaper than another, who knows. All of the oil companies buy crude at the same price, so I guess some just squeeze a few extra cents out of us because they can. One small advantage for us is we get better MPG out of our gallon. 16-17 MPG is better than the 13 I got out of my 1500 gasser.



-George-

 

[2Gen3Gen]

Diesel in Grants Pass Oregon actually made a ever so slight drop in the past week. SHOCK! But, at the same time, gas has taken a 25 cent hike. That is putting Diesel about the same price as unleaded regular. Its still cheaper in Northern Calif with all the taxes. The Pacific Pride dealer there says that we are getting ths shaft here in Oregon as we pay less in tax, have our fuel delivered from Calif and the fuel stations are paying a heck of alot less for the fuel, yet they are bending all of us over and charging us much more than they should. No one here to regulate our prices. You can go from one end of town to the other and have a 20 cent diff in price at dealers owned by the same people and who also get their deliveries from the SAME truck on the same days. Now, what is wrong with that picture? Hopefully, some government official will get the guts to finally step up and put an end to all of this illeagel pricing. Until then, consolidate your trips and bit the bullet. Maybe we will see the $2 fuel sometime in our life time. . UGH!

 

[CoastyAV8R]

I was getting fuel the other day and commented to my buddy about the high price of diesel and a lady on the other pump said, " we love the high prices because it means we get more for the gas we pump out of our wells". The she said they pay $1. 10 for their agricultural diesel while we are paying 2. 19 a gallon. Taxes are the culprit is my guess. A fella I know who is an engineer at one of the local refineries said diesel is the easiest fuel to produce and is the first fuel produced from raw crude. I guess they heat it up and first fuel to come out is diesel and is ran through a very simple refining process before it's ready for use. Normal gasoline has to boiled longer and has a much more complicated refining process he says. The demand for diesel is going up as it's also used for jet fuel after an additional refining step and more and more cars are diesel now in addition to it being used for heating oil. The price for diesel always does this, it's higher than gas in the winter and lower in the summer. I figure over the course of a year, it all evens out price wise. Mileage wise, the diesel truck will out perform and out live a gasser...

 

[DBond]

i thought the diesel was refined more now to be cleaner and that is why it is more expensive. i heard it from a guy who knows a guy.

It's refined less, except for maybe the treating to remove sulfur.

I don't think the fuel has changed since around '93 when 500 ppm low sulfur came in. 15 ppm ultra low sulfur will start in sept 2006, and is available in a few places now, but I think that is mainly fleet operations.

 

[GCross]

A fella I know who is an engineer at one of the local refineries said diesel is the easiest fuel to produce and is the first fuel produced from raw crude.

You must have misunderstood that fella because that's not true. If you look at the sequential view of the cracking process you will see that the various products drawn from crude are determined by their boiling point in this order:



Gas (propane, butane)

Naptha (thiners)

Gasoline

Kerosene

Diesel

LUbe oil

Heavy oil

Residue (tar)



Diesel is in the middle of the sequential list. I don't know what this has to do with price, but there it is.



Here's a link to more information on cracking if you're interested.



http://science.howstuffworks.com/oil-refining2.htm

 

[WyattEarp]

I was curious as to where the lady was getting agriculture fuel( off road) for 1. 10 here off road is 1. 89 to 2. 00 a gallon. The only thing i can think of would be there getting it in bulk ie, 10,000 gallon tank thats the only way you get a price reduction of that magnitude here for off road or ag fuel. your only paying 2. 19 thats good the average here is 2. 20 up to 2. 30 for highway diesel.