Here I am

Diesel prices up 70 cents in last 2 weeks! WHY??????

Attention: TDR Forum Junkies
To the point: Click this link and check out the Front Page News story(ies) where we are tracking the introduction of the 2025 Ram HD trucks.

Thanks, TDR Staff

Anyone recieved the Cummins greeting card

I'm building a HoleshotHoleset-style snowblower!

Just wondering WHYYYYYYYY diesel prices have gone from $2. 55 to as high as $3. 29 per gallon here in SOuthern Calif in the last 2-3 weeks?? Gas prices have stayed the SAME. At my local Valero and others, Gas has only went from $2. 33 up to $2. 35 in the same period. Diesel has jumped way high again. WHY?? Doesn't Diesel take less to refine????? Is it the cost of the ULSD??
 
I'd like to mention too that when I purchased my first diesel truck fuel was on the average about 30 cents/gallon cheaper than regular gas. Now is normally 50 cents higher. Did it get more difficult to make?



It is quite difficult for me not to mention the record profits reported by the oil companies each year.

:-{}
 
I paid $3. 19 a gallon yesterday :eek:



Call me crazy but around election time it was pretty cheap,since then it has gone up and up and up. .
 
UP N MTNS said:
I paid $3. 19 a gallon yesterday :eek:



Call me crazy but around election time it was pretty cheap,since then it has gone up and up and up. .



Jumped 30 cents a gallon in a week here in Northern Nevada. Above statement says it all. Election over,Bush's gang lost so it's back to how high can we go. Can't wait to see how high the oil companys profits will be next quarter. When I bought my first diesel in 1972 it cost me 30% less then the price of regular gas and that was the old leaded regular not this so called high cost to refine regular they sell now.
 
Your right, after the elections it started to rise... GO figure!!!! Maybe if we launch a recall effort and keep it up, they will come back down. :--)
 
Ya know, a few years back Congress was looking for some more money so they added some taxes to diesel fuel. Some of the states probably did the same. The oil companies will blame part of the higher price on the new low sulphur standards. Yep, I believe everything they say! I bet with the refiners turning to producing the low sulphur fuel they are shipping more abroad where refining standards have been tighter for years. Exports would make diesel supplies here tighter when prices normally go up because of the winter demand for fuel oil. :eek:
 
It's all my fault. I screwed up the supply and demand curve/ratio.



I almost went Hemi, but I went CTD.



Cuz Politics would never be involved. :)



It is amazing though that there are seasonal price fluctuations. I guess it takes more than 40 years to figure the cycle out.
 
To sum up ALL complaints about diesel prices, and why they increase, it comes down to *2* basic reasons:



1. They can.



2. WE can't do anything about it but complain.



Any more questions? :D :D



OH - and for you guys pinning it all on Bush, who ya gonna blame when the Dems are back in office, hmmmmmmmm? ;)



YOU may forget and look the other way - but *I* dern sure won't! :-laf :-laf



You diehard Liberals MIGHT wanna start working on yer excuses now, in order to be ready for the inevitable continued price increases, even after Bush is LONG gone from the whipping post... :-laf
 
It feels like we (diesel consumers) are being used to subsidize the higher costs of gasoline. If you think about it, maybe 5-10% of the vehicles on the road are diesel, BUT - I'd say diesles are using a bigger slice of the pie in terms of gallons (maybe 25-30% who knows). So why not keep 90% of the voters happy keeping gasoline prices low, and make diesel consumers make up the difference with higher diesel prices. After all, in commercial applications the higher price of fuel will amount to a surcharge that the consumers will end up paying anyway. My $. 02
 
It sure does seem like if our country took all the money we've spent on war and various financial handouts to our "friends" in the middle east over the past 50 years or so, and other oil producing lands, and used that money in search and development of alternative energy sources within our own borders, we'd be FAR ahead!



Sure would be satisfying to tell the various Arab tribes what they can do with their oil when we no longer need it... ;)



Even MORE satisfying to be on the SELLING end for a change, either the end product or the technology!



But until that day comes, they will dictate the terms, and WE will pay - complaints or no... :rolleyes:
 
THE NATIONS COMMERCE MOVES ON DIESEL AND ALL THE BIG OIL COMPANIES BONUSES ON BASED ON PROFIT... ... EVERY BUSINESS HAS TO HAVE PROFIT... . BUT MILLIONS AND BILLIONS... ... GO FIGURE... . WELCOME TO CORPORATE AMERICA... . trucksalesdave... central Georgia
 
Here's A Couple Of Things To Think About... . 1, We Can All Move To Oklahoma Where The Taxes On Fuel Are Much Cheaper , Thus The Price Of Fuel Is Cheaper, We Can Sell Our Trucks And Go To Gas,,,we Can Leave The Darn Thing In The Garage,,,we Can *****, Or We Can Get A Extra Job To Offset The Extra Expense Of The Fuel, That's What I'm Doing, Cause I Want To Keep My Truck And *****... Doc::::::
 
High diesel prices have more to do with the weather than they do with politics. Notice that diesel started to go up as the northern latitudes got colder. We generally use more diesel in the winter and summer. In the winter because some people and power plants are using more of it to keep warm. More people are driving diesel powered vehicles too. Also, the introduction of low sulpher diesel put a serious demand problem on diesel. Thanks EPA!!! I would have to say that the timing really sucked to introduce the low sulpher diesel. We're in the middle of a war, just had Katrina blow through last year, and china is sucking up all the black gold. Implementing a more aggresive strategy to get more bio-diesel in production to augment the supply and then once the supply is boosted, swap over to low sulpher.
 
You can complain that diesel is cheaper to manufacture, and it is, but that is not what price is based on, price is based on supply/demand. That is the story you will hear from the oil companies, it is standard fodder for them. That always explained to me why two gas stations, of the same brandname, 2 blocks from each other were up to a nickel different in price. :rolleyes: They are going to play the game anyway they want to make their profits.
 
After seeing this I'm wondering if "cheaper to refine" is a myth, with all the demands on ULSD & reformulation (see fuel pump icons) http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

According to that for every gallon of gasoline bought about 25c goes to refining, whereas for diesel it's almost double that- 48 cents.



Another reason for higher prices is for X amounts of refined crude you get a specific percentage of gasoline, diesel and other fuels out of it, which doesn't change based on demand. So since demand for diesel is increasing in recent years (driven by economy, greater populaty of diesel pickups, etc. ) it drives the prices higher since the refining ratios don't change.



Part of the demand thing too is our wonderful oil brokers keep selling diesel to China from you guessed it- the West Coast, so that's why we get soaked with the higher prices. And to top it off, you know how everyone seems to be moving to the West and especially the Northwest (where diesel prices have been the highest in the US for some time).



More good reading http://www.eia.doe.gov/bookshelf/brochures/diesel/dieselprices2006.html
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top