Diesel prices up 70 cents in last 2 weeks! WHY??????

[telliott]

It feels like we (diesel consumers) are being used to subsidize the higher costs of gasoline. If you think about it, maybe 5-10% of the vehicles on the road are diesel, BUT - I'd say diesles are using a bigger slice of the pie in terms of gallons (maybe 25-30% who knows). So why not keep 90% of the voters happy keeping gasoline prices low, and make diesel consumers make up the difference with higher diesel prices. After all, in commercial applications the higher price of fuel will amount to a surcharge that the consumers will end up paying anyway. My $. 02

We have to remember that when diesel prices go up, so does the price of 99% of the goods we consume. Nearly everything we buy at the store or otherwise is trucked via Diesel vehicles at some point in there journey. therefor, when diesel goes up, the price of shipping goes up on everything and raises prices on everything. So maybe the majority of vehicles on the road are gas, but the high prices of diesel hurts everyone whether they drive diesel's or not.

 

[BHaden]

A couple weeks ago I heard something about a refinery/pipe/delivery problem of some kind regarding diesel. Can't remember the details. Maybe one of those famous "maintenace" shutdowns or something. Yesterday I paid $3. 15

while 87 gas at the same station was 2. 45.

 

[RobertP]

Yep the elections are over and we still don't have an alternative fuel. Same Old Story as Usual

at least it was cheaper when the republicans were in office, it's traditional for democrates to raise prices anyway, you guys got what you voted for

 

[AMink]

I get supply and demand. I understand the politics argument. I know when winter comes, the price goes up because the demand for heating oil rises. What I don't understand is why it goes up . 10, . 20, or . 30, but only comes back down a fraction in the spring! When I bought my 97, diesel was way lower than gas and I was able to use that argument to help offset the upfront premium of the Cummins ($3500 back then, I think). Now that it is up to $5000 and the diesel is . 30 or . 40 higher than gas and not showing any desire to lower, I don't see diesel engines selling so well in the future. Is it a conspiricy by the gassers to get us off the roads, strips, and pulls? :-laf

 

[Schlickenmeyer]

We started un ULSD a while ago, no big change in price.

Oddly, when it got cold out, home heating production increases and HHO comes out out the same crude stock that diesel does. less supply of diesel available, same demand higher price.

 

[JUeckert]

made a run to pryor oklahoma yesterday,cheapest fuel i found was 2. 34,average price was about 2. 39 [2. 46 on the turnpike]from the north end to the south end of the state. back in my part of texas the average price is 2. 57, i live 30 miles from a diesel refinery. wth is the problem,wait i think i know.

 

[BPINE]

A few years ago truckers were screaming about the price of diesel, how come I don't see that anymore?

 

[ronnyM]

Fuel Prices

Does anyone have a comparison of diesel fuel prices compared to gasoline prices in Europe?

 

[Rams-n-Hogs]

A few years ago truckers were screaming about the price of diesel, how come I don't see that anymore?

Because, now, the consumer is paying the extra, in the form of a surcharge.

 

[RRees]

Here is a link to historical diesel prices in the U. S



Analyse away.



http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

 

[Nate]

Here gas is $2. 25 and diesel is $2. 93

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

A few years ago truckers were screaming about the price of diesel, how come I don't see that anymore?

As one member responded, the larger trucking outfits don't NEED to complain - they simply pass their increased operating expenses on to the customers - YOU and ME!



PLUS, the higher energy costs frequently run the smaller truck lines out of business, so the larger guys are in a win/win scenario - MORE business for themselves, and the end customers literally "pay the freight"!



I saw figures earlier this year that at that point in the year, somewhere in excess of *500* smaller truckers had been forced out of business due to unsustainable operating expenses.



Guess who's NOW hauling the stuff they WERE hauling...



THEN guess why THEY aren't complaining about fuel costs in a major fashion...



This same overall scenario applies to ALL "tax the RICH" proposals - the "rich" usually manufacturers and similar businessmen, simply pass THEIR increasing costs - taxes, labor or operating costs - on to the consumer - who end up paying those increases FOR the "rich"...



And MOST voters seem too dumb to catch on...

 

[BigPapa]

Because, now, the consumer is paying the extra, in the form of a surcharge.

I talked to the owner of a small truck line a few weeks ago and asked him what the high fuel costs were doing to him. He owns 10 rigs and his truck line is dedicated (or "leased") to one company. His fuel cost is, if I remember correctly, $1. 62/gal. Anything over that is paid by the company he's leased to. So basically he could care less how high fuel goes.



Scott

 

[KCJackson]

$2. 479 the last couple of weeks at my usual Sunoco in Palisades Park NJ

 

[NIsaacs]

Just returned from a quick trip to eastern Montana. The fuel price in Gillette, Wyo. was 2. 53 and 87 miles further, in Broadus, Mt. it was 2. 96 Don't ask what my son's '06 quad cab 6spd got for fuel millage :{





"NICK"

 

[Rams-n-Hogs]

I talked to the owner of a small truck line a few weeks ago and asked him what the high fuel costs were doing to him. He owns 10 rigs and his truck line is dedicated (or "leased") to one company. His fuel cost is, if I remember correctly, $1. 62/gal. Anything over that is paid by the company he's leased to. So basically he could care less how high fuel goes.



Scott

Yep, and the company he's leased to is the one rakin' it in from the consumer.

 

[UP N MTNS]

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[Gary - K7GLD]

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JEEZE, look at the difference between the lowest regular gasoline and the diesel - over 70 cents a gallon!



I don't care WHAT excuse the "big oil" sympathizers use, that's obscene!

 

[ARoberts]

Could be his state has a much larger tax on diesel than it does on gas.

 

[UP N MTNS]

Could be his state has a much larger tax on diesel than it does on gas.

Nope . 18 cents a gallon for the state-gas or diesel.

I belive all states pay the Fed's . 24 cents a gallon for diesel