"DIESELPOWER" Magazine run by a bunch of idiots

[Nyoest]

sounds to me like a lot of you are swinging from Cummins jockstrap, and are too brand loyal to realize that there are other engines out there that are just as reliable as your "mighty cummins" as long as they are being used as originally intended!

P. S. The 2-stroke Detroit is probably the worlds best engine for turning diesel fuel into noise! that's about it, 200hp 3ft lbs of torque.

See Sig


So is there any engine you can't whine about someone likeing?

I brought up the two strokes because I have one in my dozer. It will flat out go circles around a Cat the same size\age, parts are everywhere and don't cost an arm and a leg. Cat parts on the other hand... ... ... ... If it has a proper muffler it isn't any louder than any other engine but most rednecks "gotta have 'er stacked"
Before any one gets upset mine is stacked right now #ad


And the staff at diesel power really needs to see if they could contact some companies about running adds. They dont have nearly enough adds for me #ad

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

P. S. The 2-stroke Detroit is probably the worlds best engine for turning diesel fuel into noise! that's about it, 200hp 3ft lbs of torque.

I know the ones we had on the ship were pretty reliable and a bit more than 200 hp, seems to me they were between 1500-2000 hp but they were 16V149's. They definantely could turn fuel into noise though, you needed double hearing protection to be anywhere near them.



16 cylinders, 149 cubic inches per cylinder, 2 blowers and four turbos, those puppies sure would scream.

 

[JFaulkner]

See Sig





So is there any engine you can't whine about someone likeing?



I brought up the two strokes because I have one in my dozer. It will flat out go circles around a Cat the same size\age, parts are everywhere and don't cost an arm and a leg. Cat parts on the other hand... ... ... ... If it has a proper muffler it isn't any louder than any other engine but most rednecks "gotta have 'er stacked"

Before any one gets upset mine is stacked right now #ad




And the staff at diesel power really needs to see if they could contact some companies about running adds. They dont have nearly enough adds for me #ad

I'm not whining that you like anything! There are people out there that still think the AMC Pacer was and is a good car! Your sig is right, opinions are just that, opinions. Everytime you see a GE Locomotive go by pulling a 100 car coal train, realize that that unit will probably go close to 3 million miles before it's junked. But i guess since it's not your precious 5. 9 or your DRIPTROIT it shouldn't be on the list either. I'm not saying that the Cummins shouldn't be there, I'm just pointing out that there are more engines out there that get overlooked. And some are just too blind to realize it.



Stacks have nothing to do with the noise of a 2-stroke. Stand beside the block while it's screaming and it sounds like its cranking 5000 rpm while it's only doing 1200.



If they didn't run the ads then the mag would cost double the price it does now, and people like you would complian about the price just like those "CAT PARTS". You guys act like a bunch of women. ! :-laf

 

[Sled Puller]

Bottom line, no Diesel engine that Ford has put in their 1 ton or smaller trucks should make a top 10 list of ANYTHING.

 

[JasonCzerak]

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Stacks have nothing to do with the noise of a 2-stroke. Stand beside the block while it's screaming and it sounds like its cranking 5000 rpm while it's only doing 1200.



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Ummm, 2 stroke, cranking at 1200 RPM should sound like it's cranking at 2400rpm



heh

 

[ThrottleJockey]

Bottom line, no Diesel engine that Ford has put in their 1 ton or smaller trucks should make a top 10 list of ANYTHING.

C'mon Gene.



What about the famous 'Sled Puller Fishin' Boat Anchor Award'?



You KNOW Ford's got the top two spots locked up!

 

[JUeckert]

Bottom line, no Diesel engine that Ford has put in their 1 ton or smaller trucks should make a top 10 list of ANYTHING.

says you! i,along with many a other believe the 7. 3 was[is] a hell of an engine. have a 02 powerstroke and it's predecesor was a 97 with over 300k trouble free miles used in hard service daily. my 89 7. 3 was sold with over 300k on it,ran into the guy 2 weeks ago who bought it,claims it's nearing 500k. nope, them 7. 3 engines is junk.

 

[Jong]

By the way, my "ignorant" comments on the GM 6. 2 come from the fact that I own one. I've put four starters in it (correctly shimmed, by the way) and one injection pump over two years. Dollars I've put into my Cummins other than routine maintainence and accessories I wanted to put on, ZERO!!!!!!!! I know where my loyalties lie now.

 

[Rescue Ram]

I am not sure where anyone called you "ignorant", my friend. I am simply stating my experience; that being that our 6. 2's gave trouble free, albleight slow service. I would own another one if I had the need. I am really sorry that you are having such trouble with your 6. 2. Maybe it is time to repower it or to find a different rig. No sence keeping something around that makes you displeased, im my opinion



On the Ford comment... We have been happy, in varying degrees, with all of our 7. 3/6. 9L diesels. Maybe not the fastest, but again, out side of some GP issues, they were very relaible trucks. We have some 6. 0's at the FD, and they are not much good at all. In fact, the only engine *I* would never own again is an Electronic 6. 5L, and I might just have one of those again, too, providing I was not depending on it for more than something to tinker and mess around with.

 

[Sled Puller]

There are exceptions and flukes to every rule.



Does anyone have any data on the following items?:



How many 6. 2s trucks were converted to gasoline engines?

How many 6. 2s were sold/ are still running?

How many Ford Diesel trucks have been converted to a Cummins?



HOW MANY DODGE CUMMINS TRUCKS ARE STILL RUNNING/ CONVERTED TO GASOLINE ENGINES/ OR CONVETERD TO ANY FORD DIESEL? :-laf :-laf

 

[CHolman]

I too was pretty lit when I saw the story. The 7. 3 was a good diesel and sure belongs up there, "BUT" the Dura Max? a head of the Cummins?, WTF???!!! It should have been the Cummins in at least 4th then power stroke 5th and then the Dura dud in 10th... Get some cold weather going and see what trucks start better. A power stroke with dying glow plugs or a Cummins with a heating grid... ... I had a 97 power stroke, so I know... "I'm not just talking shi$"

 

[JUeckert]

There are exceptions and flukes to every rule.



Does anyone have any data on the following items?:



How many 6. 2s trucks were converted to gasoline engines?

How many 6. 2s were sold/ are still running?

How many Ford Diesel trucks have been converted to a Cummins?



HOW MANY DODGE CUMMINS TRUCKS ARE STILL RUNNING/ CONVERTED TO GASOLINE ENGINES/ OR CONVETERD TO ANY FORD DIESEL? :-laf :-laf

i wonder how many people have converted pickup trucks of all brands and sizes over to chevy 350 power,it is the most pop choice,but does that make it a better engine than the chrysler 318/360 or fords 351? fyi i have seen a couple of 6. 2 engines replaced out of pure ignorance as to what the problem with the engine was. you have to remember these engines came along at a time when few new little about them,a problem pops up,stick a 500 dollar 350 in it and keep going. never mind fixing that 25 dollar injector that has the 6. 2 sounding like it's got a knock.

 

[24V-DSL]

What part of "in no particular order" don't some of you understand?

 

[JasonCzerak]

What part of "in no particular order" don't some of you understand?

I never saw the article.



But if they "numbered" them and said "in no particular order" then the editor and the author of that article are still idiots and should go back to grammer school.

 

[CMusgrove]

Just a thought. They could have listed them alphabetically and done away with the numbers.

 

[Sled Puller]

What part of "in no particular order" don't some of you understand?

Oh, the part right after that when it said 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.



Lets just chalk it up to poor writing, and even poorer editing. :-laf

 

[Sled Puller]

i wonder how many people have converted pickup trucks of all brands and sizes over to chevy 350 power,it is the most pop choice,but does that make it a better engine than the chrysler 318/360 or fords 351? f.

Uhhh... . Yea!!!it does. I'd take a 350 Chevy over those and I hate SBCs. Why? Because I have owned several of each.

 

[FDavid]

sounds to me like a lot of you are swinging from Cummins jockstrap

I understand why the Cummins isn't the centerpiece of the magazine, after all, the salaries and bonuses of the staff of "dieselpower" and any magazine in general are determined by sales and growth. Having said that, if your following sales figures, the most popular diesel engines in a light trucks currently are the powerstroke and duramax. So to get the widest audience and sell the most copies it makes sense for them to be ford & chevy nut huggers .



But I feel the Cummins isn't getting the respect it deserves, especially when 99% of the magazines articles (if you can find any in between all the advertisements) are mostly devoted turning up a diesel engine. In that respect and in following the general theme of the magazine it only makes sense to put the spotlight on the engine that has the most potential , has the most devoted followers and the engine that really started the whole diesel hotrod craze. And that my friend is where they came up short and why most of us are so upset.

 

[JUeckert]

Uhhh... . Yea!!!it does. I'd take a 350 Chevy over those and I hate SBCs. Why? Because I have owned several of each.

uhhh. . no it dosent. i would take a 350 over the comp in certain years,but not all. there have been years that it was a dud from a performance standpoint,and years that total reliability was at question also. and yea i have owned more gm trucks [gas or diesel]than all other brands combined . the reason you would see 6. 2 engines taken out for a 350 is because it was cheap, it's a easy swap,and they are easy to work on,dam well not cause they were the better engine.

 

[JFaulkner]

I understand why the Cummins isn't the centerpiece of the magazine, after all, the salaries and bonuses of the staff of "dieselpower" and any magazine in general are determined by sales and growth. Having said that, if your following sales figures, the most popular diesel engines in a light trucks currently are the powerstroke and duramax. So to get the widest audience and sell the most copies it makes sense for them to be ford & chevy nut huggers .



But I feel the Cummins isn't getting the respect it deserves, especially when 99% of the magazines articles (if you can find any in between all the advertisements) are mostly devoted turning up a diesel engine. In that respect and in following the general theme of the magazine it only makes sense to put the spotlight on the engine that has the most potential , has the most devoted followers and the engine that really started the whole diesel hotrod craze. And that my friend is where they came up short and why most of us are so upset.

Now while I agree with most of what you said, doesn't it show more "respect" when the editors aren't just a bunch of brand cheerleaders? This site is full of cheerleaders. So much so when someone on here rants about how great something Cummins or dodge came out with is, it doesn't mean much since they would say that about anything Cummins or Dodge made. Maybe it's just me but, for instance, when a Harley owner tells you your Yamaha is good looking bike doesn't that impress you more than a regular brand loyal lemming telling you the same thing?



I guess some people who read that magazine will never be happy unless at the beginning of every article there was a disclaimer! "The 5. 9 Cummins is not only the greatest engine of all time but it could quite possibly be the greatest engineering accomplishment ever and could never be matched!" Now back to the article about how to install an air freshener.