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DieselPuter said:
Our system is completely ruggedized and built for the high vibration environment.



I respect your opinion, and commend you on having the talent and resources required to bring something like Dieselputer to market.



As an aside, my computer is made up of "standard-grade" components and has survived 3 years without a single failure. Could you please discuss, specifically, the ruggedization features you have on: the hard disk, the motherboard, the monitor, and the power supply? Could you also, perhaps, provide manufacturer part numbers for those components? I recognize your air-suspension case is certainly rugged.



Thanks,

Ryan
 
Ryan,

As you can understand, vibration is a major issue with computers that exist in the mobile environment especially with vibrations generated by CTD trucks and other diesels.



We have addressed this by including an airbag type support bracket that insulates the then entire case, including hard drive, motherboard and all other components from vibration. The aluminum exterior of the case is extremely durable. We’ve bypassed a plastic case and use a metal, powder coated enclosure that can be beat on with a hammer and not cause any internal damage. This feature that every other mobile computer OEM fails to address.



The stand for our 10. 4 VGA touchscreen, is comprised of CAD designed parts, rubber jointing, and is completely overbuilt to mount a lightweight screen with a no-drill installation.



Another durability feature, we use a slot loading DVD drive rather than a tray load, because it’s cool, but it also eliminates mechanical failure points, and does not have a extended tray to break off.



Our power supply has a wide input range and can handle power spikes, low voltage situations (engine cranking), and electrical supply issues when running other accessories. Power inverters can barely handle running themselves, much less any voltage input irregularities, and provide clean, filtered power to my expensive computer system. Our power supply is designed from the ground up to exist in the mobile environment and is not modified or adapted to operate.



Everything in the DieselPuter system is designed to operate in the mobile environment. From the case, stand, power supply, and accessories are purpose built for the 12 volt, high vibration application. As far as providing manufacture part numbers, all of our components could be sourced by anyone from the internet. We have spent several years in R&D to determine the best combination of components for this application.



Wade Stine

www.StineEngineering.com







rbattelle said:
I respect your opinion, and commend you on having the talent and resources required to bring something like Dieselputer to market.



As an aside, my computer is made up of "standard-grade" components and has survived 3 years without a single failure. Could you please discuss, specifically, the ruggedization features you have on: the hard disk, the motherboard, the monitor, and the power supply? Could you also, perhaps, provide manufacturer part numbers for those components? I recognize your air-suspension case is certainly rugged.



Thanks,

Ryan
 
DieselPuter said:
Ryan,

As you can understand, vibration is a major issue with computers that exist in the mobile environment especially with vibrations generated by CTD trucks and other diesels.



We have addressed this by including an airbag type support bracket that insulates the then entire case, including hard drive, motherboard and all other components from vibration. The aluminum exterior of the case is extremely durable. We’ve bypassed a plastic case and use a metal, powder coated enclosure that can be beat on with a hammer and not cause any internal damage. This feature that every other mobile computer OEM fails to address.



And my system sits on a powder-coated metal tray with no vibration damping. I "damp" my hard drive by simply placing it atop the wiring that runs across the top of the motherboard. This obviates most stress on the disk (except that caused by gravity, which no suspension system can fully eliminate) by not anchoring it to the truck. As I'm sure you're aware, rigid supporting members transmit all loading, hence the need for a suspension.



DieselPuter said:
The stand for our 10. 4 VGA touchscreen, is comprised of CAD designed parts, rubber jointing, and is completely overbuilt to mount a lightweight screen with a no-drill installation.



This is not amateur hour. CAD design is absolutely not a "feature" in any way, nor does it imply any kind of performance. As you've used it here, it is nothing more than a buzz word. CAD says absolutely nothing about the validity of any design. Remember the "garbage in, garbage out" principle? Anyone with proper training can sit down in front of a CAD terminal and "design" something that is a complete pile of junk. I know - I've seen many people do it.





Dieselputer said:
Everything in the DieselPuter system is designed to operate in the mobile environment. From the case, stand, power supply, and accessories are purpose built for the 12 volt, high vibration application. As far as providing manufacture part numbers, all of our components could be sourced by anyone from the internet. We have spent several years in R&D to determine the best combination of components for this application.



Wade Stine

www.StineEngineering.com



Your case looks suspiciously like this one, which has an optional anti-vibration mount. C'mon Wade, admit it - you designed nothing in this system. You sourced all the parts for it online, boxed them all up, and are selling it as a complete package. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS! Dell computer made their fortune doing the same thing!! I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong! But trying to market this thing as something you personally put a lot of "design" into is misleading.



-Ryan
 
One thing I've wondered...



If this machine is (in part) intended for playing DVDs, is that feature limited to a second, optional, rear seat monitor? Or can DVDs also be played on the front seat monitor? How about the Internet access (e. g. web browsing, email) and other "normal" PC applications (like word processing, etc. )?



If such entertainment and "office" applications can be viewed on the front seat display, how does the DieselPuter satisfy California's requirement for an "interlock", which is supposed to disable such applications while the vehicle is being driven?



(I ask about California because I live in that state and it appears that the DieselPuter folks are located there, as well. )
 
Don, an interlock is very simple to add to the DieselPuter, we would be happy to include one free of charge if you desire. It's just a ground switch activated by your e-brake. We don't include an interlock because we assume our customers will use their DieselPuters responsibly and in full compliance with Federal, State and Local laws. I was pulled over just last week by the CHP and had a 20 minute conversation with the 2 officers about my DieselPuter. They were amazed at my ability to quickly access as much information as I can wirelessly. They laughed and said the CHP needs them in their patrol cars, and let me off with a warning. No, this doesn’t mean the DieselPuter will get you out of tickets!!!!



Wade









DonS said:
One thing I've wondered...



If this machine is (in part) intended for playing DVDs, is that feature limited to a second, optional, rear seat monitor? Or can DVDs also be played on the front seat monitor? How about the Internet access (e. g. web browsing, email) and other "normal" PC applications (like word processing, etc. )?



If such entertainment and "office" applications can be viewed on the front seat display, how does the DieselPuter satisfy California's requirement for an "interlock", which is supposed to disable such applications while the vehicle is being driven?



(I ask about California because I live in that state and it appears that the DieselPuter folks are located there, as well. )
 
"Your case looks suspiciously like this one, which has an optional anti-vibration mount. C'mon Wade, admit it - you designed nothing in this system. You sourced all the parts for it online, boxed them all up, and are selling it as a complete package. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS! Dell computer made their fortune doing the same thing!! I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong! But trying to market this thing as something you personally put a lot of "design" into is misleading. "



-Ryan








Ryan, you got us on that one!!!



We do use an Opus case and their power supply, they are without question the best components for the many reasons that we have stated above. I don't remember saying anywhere that we have designed or manufactured any individual components. We have "designed" the system, meaning that we have pulled individual purpose built components together and figured out which ones work best together, bundled them together and we call it a DieselPuter. The whole being greater then the sum of its part’s thing. I am sure you can understand that.
 
They have a sense of humor AND can take the heat - good bunch of guys!



Personally I don't see a need for a computer in my truck at all, but I'm sure many do. And I'm sure many of those many would want to buy a turn-key system rather than integrating it. There is also a support obligation that a company acquires when putting out a system versus components - certainly a dimension far greater than distributing individual components.



Now all you need to do is come out with one of those interlock systems for cell phones and mascara brushes. :-laf
 
DieselPuter said:
Don, an interlock is very simple to add to the DieselPuter, we would be happy to include one free of charge if you desire. It's just a ground switch activated by your e-brake. We don't include an interlock because we assume our customers will use their DieselPuters responsibly and in full compliance with Federal, State and Local laws.

The legality part is precisely what I'm looking for.



To keep the machine useful, I'd want to have the ability to play DVDs, check email, etc. (as well as GPS navigation) when not driving. To keep it legal in California, I'd want to disable just about everything but navigation while driving.



At present, I can't legally use my laptop for navigation purposes. The laptop can also play DVDs, check email, and perform other forbidden functions - and I don't have any way to disable those functions while I'm driving (while leaving the navigation function intact).
 
i used a hidden ground switch to enable use of my system while driving. the question is ,imo, is having these in a vehicle safe? that seems to be up to the driver, for some absolutely; others shouldn't even have a license. the lawmakers want to eliminate the human element (responsible choice)from us,as it makes their jobs and our lives easier... somewhat. the point is cars are becoming our"homes" as we spend more and more of our time in them. so we would like/need to have these (dieselputer)type products . so far we can . they have started banning cellphone use in cars ,told us to wear seatbelts federally(my state voted it out three times prior) ,whats next? in the interest of safety we trade choice . i could get into a large political rant here (i'll refain). ALL safetys can be voided or added ,it is still our responsibility to be safe when driving. therefore i agree that hard/software should be added to meet these rules ;however, if they are, how to implement so a passenger can fully use it while driving? hmmm... my $. 02 :cool:
 
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