2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Difference between 3/4 and 1 ton

[AFoulk]

Whats the difference between the 2 ( single rear wheels)? Someone told me that the 1 tons have overload springs in the rear, but my 2500 does too.

 

[SnoKing]

The overload have the same part number 2500/3500, the main spring pack (that looks the same) has a part number that differs by one.



If you have a second gen 2500 with camper option and larger 265 tires, then you have the 2nd gen SRW 3500, DC just forgot to adjust the door jam sticker GVWR and the model number plate on the door. You could get a basic 2500 without the camper option and larger tires rated at 8800 lbs or you could get the camper option and larger 265 tires rated at 8800 lbs.



Mine's a 2001. 5 2500 SRW 1 ton, as it has the camper, trailer and optional larger tires from the factory.



SNOKING

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

If you have an automatic you have a Dana 70 rear as opposed to the Dana 80 rear that the manuals and all one tons have.

 

[SnoKing]

Don't rain on my parade! SNOKING

 

[AFoulk]

So then the 3/4 and 1 tons both had overload springs on them if I understand you correctly. And what you say about the camper package, that would explain why mine rides like crap compared to my buddies 98. I know my door jam sticker says it came with 265 tires, so it probably has those springs. His doesn't ride to bad, but mine rides like the rear axle is welded solid to the frame. Ripples in the middle of an intersection actually cause my rear wheels to leave the ground.

 

[Bob V]

The only difference between the 3rd gens 2500 and 3500 SRW are the overloads. The second gen 2500 manuals have a Dana 80 hybrid, the center section and the tubes to the spring perches are 80s but is necks down to 70s size after that. The 3500 have a full 80 all the way. I have not been able to find out for sure if the drive axles on the hybrid are the same as the 70 or the 80, but I believe they are the same as the 70

 

[Grizzly]

Another big difference is that the 3500 has a higher GVWR tag on the door jamb. Even if the 2500 has the same component to handle the same load, the 3500 still has a higher GVRW, which is what a State Trooper goes by if stopped for a possible load violation issues.

 

[DonTX]

My one ton has the Mor Ryde rear suspension stuff, it rides like a car on rubber springs when empty, and of course nicely when loaded as well.

So then the 3/4 and 1 tons both had overload springs on them if I understand you correctly. And what you say about the camper package, that would explain why mine rides like crap compared to my buddies 98. I know my door jam sticker says it came with 265 tires, so it probably has those springs. His doesn't ride to bad, but mine rides like the rear axle is welded solid to the frame. Ripples in the middle of an intersection actually cause my rear wheels to leave the ground.

 

[PC12Driver]

So then the 3/4 and 1 tons both had overload springs on them if I understand you correctly.

Neither had overload springs, unless equipped with the camper package.



The camper package added overloads and a rear sway bar.



The overloads wouldn't touch unless the truck was squatting down 2-3 inches from having a load in the bed, so I don't think that alone would cause your truck to ride more harshly. If I recall correctly, there were a couple different sources for the rear springs about that time, and one did ride noticibly rougher than the other.



Also regarding your rough ride, how much pressure are you running in the rears?

 

[TWilkening]

Will it say in the glovebox that the truck has the camper option? Mine has overloads and a sway bar. I didn't see anything in the glove box about a camper package. By the door sticker, factory tire size is 245s, but I have 265s on it.

 

[AFoulk]

I wasn't saying that the overload springs were causing the rough ride, I just thought that maybe the springs themselves were a little stiffer. I'll have to check my log book to see what I set the rear tires at. I know I tried to keep it lower than the recommended pressure listed on the door jamb sticker since I don't haul or tow much. I looked at my door sticker today and it says it should have 245's on it, but it does have the overload leaves and rear sway bar, so I don't know if it has the camper package or not.

 

[DonTX]

Maybe years are different, but my 97 hood sticker says nothing about a camper package, but it has sway bar on the rear with the overload springs. I have the dealer showroom brochure, and cannot find any reference to a camper package, weights and springs info has only one figure for the 3500. .

 

[RDyson]

I ordered an 01 3/4 ton 5 speed with the camper package. It had the overloads and a rear sway bar. Not sure what rear end it had.



Randy

 

[JStangeland]

don, could you say a little more about your rear suspension? the mor ryde?
is it only for a 3500 or would it work for SRW as well?

 

[NoSeeUm]

So then the 3/4 and 1 tons both had overload springs on them if I understand you correctly. And what you say about the camper package, that would explain why mine rides like crap compared to my buddies 98. I know my door jam sticker says it came with 265 tires, so it probably has those springs. His doesn't ride to bad, but mine rides like the rear axle is welded solid to the frame. Ripples in the middle of an intersection actually cause my rear wheels to leave the ground.

LOL



Yeah, them studded tire grooves in the pavement are hell.



Jim

 

[DonTX]

You can go to their website to find out, I see no reason why it would not work on SRW just the same. Here is a link to them, if you click on the writing just below the red truck, you can see a live action demo of how it works.



MOR/ryde - Products - Suspensions - Tow Vehicles

don, could you say a little more about your rear suspension? the mor ryde?

is it only for a 3500 or would it work for SRW as well?

 

[Grizzly]

You can go to their website to find out, I see no reason why it would not work on SRW just the same. Here is a link to them, if you click on the writing just below the red truck, you can see a live action demo of how it works.

MOR/ryde - Products - Suspensions - Tow Vehicles

Linky no worky.

 

[Grizzly]

You can go to their website to find out, I see no reason why it would not work on SRW just the same. Here is a link to them, if you click on the writing just below the red truck, you can see a live action demo of how it works.

MOR/ryde - Products - Suspensions - Tow Vehicles

Oops, now it's working.



I like it, I have seen some high end 5er with the MOR/ryde. At $595 plus shipping, it is somewhat spendy.

 

[DonTX]

I think you are referring to the rubber mounted Mor Ryde hitch pin. My truck had the Mor Ryde suspension on it from the previous owner, but I had a friend with a twin to mine I rode in lots, I feel it is a worthwhile addition if you are like a snowbird who needs to pull your fifth wheel with the truck, then use it for 6 months as a car. The previous owner of my truck also got the fifth wheel hitchpin device as well. His original impression was not too favorable, but he had the wrong rubbers. MorRyde sent him a more correctly designed rubber compound for his rig, he is well satisfied now. I will be in the Mor Ryde area this summer, I may stop by Mor Ryde and have the hitchpin installed on my trailer as well. It don't bother me, but the wife really hates the feel of the trailer input.

 

[whaler]

So on the 3rd generation trucks - like the 2007 trucks - there is no difference between the 2500 and the 3500 other than the overloads? Same rearend? (That would explain why I can't find many SRW one-ton trucks on the lots, I guess. )