Dispensing of Amalgamated Fuel Add

[BT]

Got my 5 gal container of Amalgamated the other day. Smells really bad, even through I haven't opened it yet. The mailroom guy wasn't happy. So I'm thinking I want to keep spills to a minimum when transferring to smaller containers.



Has anybody found a pump system that screws onto the threaded opening?



I read previous post regarding using a part from Granger, but it said the pump had to be modified to fit, and wasn't clear on what had to be done - sounded like it had to be screwed into the container, and then another post talked about a 3/4" pipe thread reducer, which looks way too small for the size of the opening.

 

[E7mack96]

Tractor supply has a nifty pump that fits into a 5 gallon pail thru the opening. It was like 20 dollars. made by the people that make the electric pumps for the off road fuel tanks

 

[BT]

Thanks E7, do you by chance have a web address or phone no. for Tractor supply and/or the name/model no. for the pump?

 

[JGK]

BT,



Your description of what you read about the Granger pump sounds like it came from me, though I don't remember if I posted about it



I bought a plastic pump from Granger for about $12 or so. The bottom has 2 sets of threads, large and small. The small one is 3/4" pipe thread as I remember. I cound find no other pump or adapter that would fit the threads on the opening of the can. So I drilled a hole slightly larger than 3/4"in the steel cap on can and soldered a short section (1/4" or so) of a brass 3/4" NPT threaded pipe connector to the underside of the cap. The pump threads right into this, and, of course, the cap threads on to the can. Works like a charm. When I'm done filling up a bunch of 1 pint plastic bottles I remove the pump from the cap and thread in a 3/4" brass plug.



If you need pictures or specs on the pump, I can do that. Just let me know.



-Jay

 

[Cooker]

I just use a turkey baster (one that I only use for this purpose) with a piece of vinyl tubing attached to the end. It may take just a little while longer to fill a container, but it was cheap, only $2, and it works well for me. Just a thought.

 

[The patriot]

ROFLMAO

Originally posted by Cooker

I just use a turkey baster (only that I only use for this purpose) with a piece of vinyl tubing attached to the end. It may take just a little while longer to fill a container, but it was cheap, only $2, and it works well for me. Just a thought.

The mental pictures this is drawing for me. :-laf

Eric

 

[Cooker]

I am usually pretty good about laughing at myself, but I must have missed something here?

 

[JJW_ND]

Any of you transfer this to plastic bottles?



I saved a few Stanadyne PF bottles. Washed them out with fuel and filled one up. Let it set for a week and it has not dissolved yet.



I also spilled plenty filling the first bottle. The can is really full.





jjw

ND

 

[illflem]

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This what you're looking for? Item number 5P from http://www.gemplers.com/

 

[BT]

I saved a bunch of Stanadyne bottles for refilling too, but the caps don't seal very well. I am going to try some Nalgene HDPE (high density polyethelyne) bottles, which is the same material the stanadyne bottles are made out of. Nalgene makes all kinds of combinations - big, small, square, round, wide mouth, and small mouth. The bottle to get is their smallmouth rounds, as the opening is a lot bigger (1 - 1/8" I. D. ) than the Standynes but should pour well. I have a 16 oz size but they probably make bigger ones as well. The bottles are white - translucent so you can see the level, and they have graduations in milliliters and ounces.



Other threads suggested SIGG or MSR aluminum fuel bottles, which I have used for years for carrying fuel for climbing and they work great, but the problem is there aren't any graduations for measuring and obviously you can't see through the bottle. Most of the time I'm topping off my tank and have to estimate the amount of fuel based on my fuel gauge, then pour the appropriate amount of fuel additive before filling the tank so the incoming fuel mixes the fuel additive really well. With the graduations on the HDPE bottles this works very well.



I'm thinking of trying the aluminum bottles - I'm going to put a pint in, then use a bent coat hanger or something to scribe the leve on the inside of the bottle, then add another pint and mark. At least that way I can roughly gauge the amount I'm putting in the fuel tank for partial fills. It doesn't hurt a thing to add more fuel additive than is necessary, just drives up the cost of diesel per gallon.



Nalgene also makes some really nice Lexan bottles in the same sizes, this stuff is incredibly tough and probably compatible with all of the nasty polymers in the fuel additives.



The inside diameter of the holes on these bottles is also the perfect size for inserting the breather hose - my next project to move that thing somewhere.



Can find bottles at www.rei.com

 

[BT]

Thanks for the pic illflem - I posted my last reply before looking at the thread. This is just what I was looking for. Is the thread size on that white container the same as the steel Amalgamated can? I'm curious, what are you doing in this picture? Brake fluid?

 

[BT]

Uh, just went to Gemplers site and realized that wasn't you at the wheel. No need to reply...

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Like JGK said, I don't think there are any pumps that will thread onto the cap threads on the barrel. I had a nice pump from MSC that was useless. I ordered it figuring it would thread right in.



I am using one of those cheesy . 99 cent siphon pumps with the red bellows. A piece of junk.

 

[JohnE]

You can cut off the original lid and replace it with a pump. I bought a couple at the local fleet store that attach to 5 gallon pail tops. They work great with Dexron III (approximately 10 weight oil). Not sure if they will survive the Amalgamated.



my 2 reale

 

[illflem]

John, I don't if the type you speak of will seal tight enough. Seems like additive might be sort of volatile and need to be kept tightly sealed.

 

[JGK]

Those threads on the cap of the Amalgamated can are unique for 5-gal. pails. No one seems to make a pump or adapter that fits it. I called Amalgamated and found out where they buy their cans. I then called them to find out if they knew of any pumps that fit it (no luck). As I rememeber, that outfit even sold pumps, but none that fit this can. Called McMaster-Carr, Grangers, etc. That's when I decided to make my own.



I'm not saying there isn't one, it's just not very common.



-Jay

 

[JohnE]

Originally posted by illflem

John, I don't if the type you speak of will seal tight enough. Seems like additive might be sort of volatile and need to be kept tightly sealed.

I was thinking more for a complete pump out of the 5 gal pail into smaller convenient jugs.