2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Dodge Ram 4000 seen in Mexico

[Eric Lee]

I just got back from Cancun and I was suprised to see the 4000 on the side of some Ram trucks sold down in Mexico. The wheels look like they are off a 1. 5 ton truck. All these heavy trucks I spotted where 2nd Gens and gas.



Anybody know anything about these? I assume they are not sold here because of the braking system effectiveness at weight capacity.



Here's a link in Spanish to a truck dealer - I've not done a thorough search on these -



http://www.arca.org.mx/descripcion.asp?ID=53535

 

[bmoeller]

I saw one in Rock Island, Illinois, last summer. Had a 24V/manual trans. White, SRW, reg cab. Didn't get a chance to talk to the driver. He was just leaving as I pulled in.

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

Here ya go for info





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[ToolManTimTaylor]

Wow the translation is rough but here ya go. Oh and no diesel

oh And Ram Mexico Site



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System of Security -

seat Belts of 3 points - forward/rear Antilock Disk Brakes System Equipment -



Softening of heavy work -

Seats with fabric - Crystals color - Step in cabin - fold-up exterior Mirrors of 7 x 10 inches

- Lamps of identification in awning -



Rims LT225/95-17D Expensive black every station - Grill in Dark Gray

color - Rhine of steel of 17 x 6inches - heavy work cooling off System



Technical specifications



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- . 4000 CHASSIS CABIN



Technical specifications -

Type of motor V8 5. 7l -

Power cf @ rpm 330@4,800 -

Torque lb-foot @ rpm 375@4,200 -



Manual Broadcast of 5 velocities -

Tank of fuel 132. 5 lts. -

Rear-wheel Drive -

Direction Hydraulics -

forward Suspension stiff Axis and 5 arms of control, helicoid springs and stabilizing bar -

rear Suspension Springs of double step and to help -

Height of cabin al flat 700 mm -

Height of step al flat 400 mm -

Wide of cabin 2,030 mm -

Wide of rear axis with rims 2,438 mm -

made out forward 1,770 mm -

made out rear 1,926 mm-

Wide platform obsession points 1,106 mm -

Distance of Cabin to rear axis 1,953 mm -

Distance among axes 4,077 mm - Long 6,142 mm -

Area of load 8. 0 m² -

Capacity of load 3,052 kg -

Traffic gross Weight * 5,682 kg. -

Traffic Weight ** 2,630 kg -

Traffic gross Weight Combined *** 7,711 kg.



*Traffic gross weight: Weight of the aforesaid vehicle in kilograms, added al of its maximum capacity of load according to the specifications of the manufacturer and al of its tank of full fuel. **Traffic weight: Is the weight of the vehicle in conditions of operation with all the normal team of factory and with its levels to its nominal capacity. ***Peso Rough Combined Traffic: Weight of the vehicle but the weight of the trailer.

 

[SRadke]

I saw a couple in Mazatlan last month. They were 2wd but appear to use the 4x4 front end with 4 link and coilovers. The diffrence was a piece of tube rather than a diff in front. Caught my eye.



-Scott

 

[HCanales]

I saw a couple in Mazatlan last month. They were 2wd but appear to use the 4x4 front end with 4 link and coilovers. The diffrence was a piece of tube rather than a diff in front. Caught my eye.



-Scott

Yea, what is up with that? Some of the work trucks the military employes have the same front end you're talking about but they are 3500. Perhaps they are more durable than your conventional 2wd 3500 .



HCanales

 

[DBogo]

i was down in mexico a while ago and a saw a bunch of those ram 6500 and 7500 they were pretty cool

 

[IC Smoke]

In Tim's link if the 6500/7000 a 07 model or can we get those now??? I like em!!



Anyone knwo if you can get the mirrors off the mexican trucks up here??





Ian

 

[EBottema]

I'd like to get some Ram 4000 emblems. No idea where do get them from either same as the mirrors ICI is looking for

 

[dodge cummins]

how can they consider them heavy duty by putting a hemi strapped to a 5 speed manual?

 

[EBottema]

how can they consider them heavy duty by putting a hemi strapped to a 5 speed manual?

You mean a "FAKE" Hemi... . Not its not a real hemi.....



I'm suprised they dont have a cummins in it

 

[BigIronRam]

I'd like to get some Ram 4000 emblems. No idea where do get them from either same as the mirrors ICI is looking for

I'd like to get a pair of the 6500 emblems, been trying for YEARS (since '98 or '99) and never got a set. US dealers can't touch them, they're just not in the system, I'm told. I did find out once they're 125 pesos. That's like 3¢ US isn't it? :-laf



Robert

 

[EBottema]

When I go down to Tijuana, I could call and order some and go pick them up. Does anyone know if there is a dealer in TJ? or near the border?

 

[Eric Lee]

Geno's

Every time I think I've seen what info is on Geno's site - I see a link to a page I've not seen - Eric



TTaylor - Did you do the translation on that? Impressed!



The listed GVWR is 7711 Kg - So the Ram 4000 has a (x2. 204) 16,995 Lb GVWR.



And the American 3500 is 10,800#?



- Eric

 

[HCanales]

Coming to find out, the Ram 4000 is the same exact chassis as our Ram 3500 4wd. The only thing different is the dana 60 front axle vs. a piece of pipe for the axle. Their safety standards are not as limited as ours, therefore

they can rate the 4000 higher than our 3500.



As for the 6500 and 7000, why? I mean, why would you make such a vehicle so under powered with substandard braking. First of all, they are losing power from the aircompressor on the 5. 7l hemiLess-torqueLess monster. Second, they require a larger cooling system, which isn't bad, but they need a larger fan, belts and drive sheaves. The fan alone robbs so much power because of the cfms required for the cooling system. I bet that thing gets really good gas milage ! Enough on the power, lets talk about the wheels. Nice??? maybe back in 1950! Not to many people use the split rims anymore and those wheels don't exactly have any "bling-bling", as some folks would call it. If you can align those wheels when you change them, good on you, because I can't! Those wheels are very difficult to align because of lug design. Well, I guess its just designed to roll and it does.



I guess it just bugs how other countries can mess up a truck or anything for that matter and copyrights don't phase them. In a way I'm glad they don't have CTD in them, because that is exclusively for us. Unless, other countries respect our copyrights and pay their dues to US-of-A then they deserve Cummins Power!



Sorry guys, its only my opinion . No pun intended.

HCanales

 

[BigIronRam]

When I go down to Tijuana, I could call and order some and go pick them up. Does anyone know if there is a dealer in TJ? or near the border?

I don't know, as I understand it dealers are few and far between in Mexico. One of my shop guys ordered and paid for a set for me when he went down for Christmas a few years ago but didn't get back in time before they sent them back. So I'm out the money and the emblems. I'm told they work a bit "different" down there, no refunds? I dunno, that's what I was told anyway.



Robert

 

[MAX A/C]

I guess it just bugs how other countries can mess up a truck or anything for that matter and copyrights don't phase them.

I don't think it's the country building them, it's Dodge. They build and sell alot of trucks for consumers down there. I think it stinks that Dodge builds some neat versions for Mexico and they can't do a little extra engineering so we could buy them here... For example, I've seen several 2nd gen Ramchargers running around here with Mexican plates. It's a really neat looking vehicle and I'm sure they would have sold alot of 'em here in the U. S.

Scott

 

[DKarvwnaris]

how can they consider them heavy duty by putting a hemi strapped to a 5 speed manual?

#1 anything bigger than a nissan pickup in mexico with 40 chicken cages tied to it is considered heavy duty. Ever been south of Sonora?



#2 the vehicles equipment packages south of the border are usually nothing more than emblems, no drivetrain upgrades. (we seem to be following the trend more and more).



If it says "rancho", "lobo" or higher numerically than the common vehiclefor sale, they get top dollar for it.



The diesels from Texas are cheaper for them to import into Mexico than what they can buy them for domestically. Ever here about the "Chocolate's" from the north? It refers to US imported vehicles going to live a second life south of the border. Why buy a diesel in Mexico when they can get it half price and import it?

 

[ToolManTimTaylor]

TTaylor - Did you do the translation on that? Impressed!

Sheah Nooo way mi comprende espanol :-laf



ero con lugares quiere www.freetranslation.com cualquiera puede ser un maestro del idioma. De hecho yo probalbly podría huir con el dicho que escribo a máquina esto en mi cuarto de baño cubrió en el lavabo el material azul que fija lo que es probablemente uno del último 6 galón las unidades parejas dejaron en el planeta. Permitiré que usted tipos figuren que fuera usted mismo



Try them out LOL!!! www.freetranslation.com

 

[Eric Lee]

So the Mexican version of our 3500 frame is rated at?



Capacity of load 3,052 kg -

Traffic gross Weight * 5,682 kg. -

Traffic Weight ** 2,630 kg -

Traffic gross Weight Combined *** 7,711 kg.



5682 Kg (x2. 204) = 12,727 Lb

or

7711 Kg (x2. 204) = 16,995 Lb



-Eric